Joe Biden Was NOT running the country

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California going broke.

Isn't the U.S. going broke even faster?

Are undocumented people responsible for the preponderance of the debt?
 
Ramrouser said:
It’s true. California going broke due to Newsome’s decision to give Medicaid benefits to illegals.
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California is going broke?

Here's what I find when asking about California's economy....

Yes, California's economy is experiencing significant growth, surpassing even the world's top three economies. California's GDP has grown at a 6% rate in 2024, which is faster than the U.S. (5.3%), China (2.6%), and Germany (2.9%). This growth has propelled California to become the fourth-largest economy globally, surpassing Japan
 
Ramrouser said:
It was the policy of the last Administration for 3 years. Only in an election year did they start to clamp down on the border. So my point is the Democrats caused this by sending a signal to the world to "come on in" the water is warm and then purposefully allowed the border to be open. I'm sure you watched the 2016 and 2020 Democratic primaries where the candidates were competing to show how much they supported illegal immigration.
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Bullshit
 
Ramrouser said:
State - funded uncompensated outlays for health care provided to Georgia illegal aliens is estimated to be 210 million. I have no doubt that Georgia residents pay more for medical insurance due to illegals visiting emergency rooms
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How much do you suspect Georgia residents save due to "illegals" providing the labor for goods and services that Georgia residents consume daily?
 
Ramrouser said:
It’s true. California going broke due to Newsome’s decision to give Medicaid benefits to illegals.
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The ginormous amount of money we spend on K-12 education (and to a lesser degree, community and four year colleges) makes the Medicaid spending look like a rounding error. We spend 3x the entire Georgia budget on just k-12 education.

Of course, there is a significant amount of that expense that is directly tied to immigration - probably more than the Medicaid expense.

Also, there is no “e” in Newsom, although I screw that one a bunch, too.
 
The problem is that the "legitimate" news media keeps shrinking by the day. The CEO of CBS News has quit because her bosses want her to go easy on Dear Leader because they're trying to negotiate a deal to sell part of their company, and they don't want Trump 2.0 to block it or slow it down. The longtime director of the famed 60 Minutes investigative news program also quit recently for the same reason. The percentage of our news media that's willing to report what's actually happening instead of backing down to Dear Leader's threats and is reliable and trustworthy is steadily shrinking, and has been for awhile. They're perfectly happy to obsess and focus on Biden, because they know that neither he, nor the former members of his administration, nor Democrats as a whole will threaten them with government agencies or try to destroy their careers as Trumpers will.
 
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Ramrouser said:
State - funded uncompensated outlays for health care provided to Georgia illegal aliens is estimated to be 210 million. I have no doubt that Georgia residents pay more for medical insurance due to illegals visiting emergency rooms but I suspect Georgia insurance premiums are less than California.
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People pay more in insurance premiums because of ALL uninsured that visit emergency rooms. Maybe this country should do a better job with insurance.

But there are so many other issues with Healthcare that balloon the cost. Maybe if an entity with the resources would take a serious look at the entire industry cost could be drastically lowered. Where might we find such an entity?
 
Calheel said:
But that is my point above. It is way, way more than that because immigrants disproportionately use the emergency room for all medical needs because the ER doesn't turn anyone away due to lack of insurance (or usually does not). This cost is than passed on to all Georgians. The like per capita cost is closer to $100 per Georgian, not $21.
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But this is true for everyone without insurance, not just immigrants. Just considering the basic population numbers, I would imagine there are more uninsured citizens than immigrants. So, while it is an issue, it's not one that can be solely placed at the feet of one group of people.
 
Couple of things:

"I'm sure you watched the 2016 and 2020 Democratic primaries where the candidates were competing to show how much they supported illegal immigration." If anything @Ramrouser, you are channeling this...




AND

@lawtig02 asked, "It’s also interesting that conservative writers prattle on about the hellscapes of urban America without getting within 100 miles of a blue county. Why do you think liberal writers are charitable to MAGAs, while conservative writers lie incessantly about liberals?"

That's a pretty good question...
 
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Ouch. Was Scarborough lying or did he only meet Biden in the morning or did Biden take an absolute nose dive in 4 months? I really hope it was the second one. My guess is that at that point in time, Biden got a couple good hours in the morning and then as the day went on he got more tired, and more confused.
 
ZenMode said:
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Scarborough will NEVER live this down. He didn't just defend Biden's mental health he FU'ed anyone who felt otherwise. Total loss of credibility. It will go on his tombstone.

Oh, and he alluded to the fact that he spent several hours speaking with Biden. In the spring of 2024 there was no way Biden could intelligently speak for several hours.
 
Ramrouser said:
Scarborough will NEVER live this down. He didn't just defend Biden's mental health he FU'ed anyone who felt otherwise. Total loss of credibility. It will go on his tombstone.

Oh, and he alluded to the fact that he spent several hours speaking with Biden. In the spring of 2024 there was no way Biden could intelligently speak for several hours.
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You literally have no idea of that last assertion. My uncle has Parkinson's with Lewy Dimentia. There are some days when he has no idea what is going on AT ALL. There are other days when he is as lucid as could possibly be for the entire day or days at a stretch.

As for things that people will NEVER live down. You all who support Trump better hope that isn't true because you absolutely will come to a day where you will personally hope that people do let you live it down once you see the totality of his destruction.
 
thebruinbleedstarheelblue said:
California supports itself and the welfare states... you particularly should be thankful rather than trying to hate on your sponsor.
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Au contraire. My two states, Georgia and Florida, are also "donor" states - sending more tax revenue to the US than they receive in benefits. According to the April 2025 publication by USAFACTS, Georgia has a +14B surplus with Florida having a +17B surplus.
 
Ramrouser said:
I can laugh at the more extreme of MAGA and their devotion to Trump
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In what world do you live in that you are not extreme MAGA? The fact alone that you want/receive a lot of Trump swag should be enough to tip you off that you're extreme MAGA. And let's not even get into the fact that you see yourself as some Trump whisperer who can always explain away all the stupid and crazy shit Trump says and does by telling us all your interpretations of what he really means/thinks.
 
milom98 said:
In what world do you live in that you are not extreme MAGA? The fact alone that you want/receive a lot of Trump swag should be enough to tip you off that you're extreme MAGA. And let's not even get into the fact that you see yourself as some Trump whisperer who can always explain away all the stupid and crazy shit Trump says and does by telling us all your interpretations of what he really means/thinks.
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In what world do you live in where you can't tell if a poster is obviously joking about receiving Trump swag as a Christmas gifts from family members? I was making fun of all the "Trump watches" and "Trump sneakers" that are being offered for sale.

The extreme MAGA I was referring to are the folks who wait for 9 hours or so in the blazing heat to attend one of his rallies, covered head to toe in Trump paraphernalia waiving Trump flags. These folks boycott Fox News because it's too liberal.

Otherwise, I have no issue being labeled ultra MAGA.
 
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