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Many Americans Say the Democratic Party Does Not Share Their Priorities

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Ramrouser said:
I'm on record as saying I'm not a fan of Trump's tariff policies. They'll be a quick settlement and perhaps a factory or two will relocate to the US (like the Civic plant to Indiana) but I don't think it's worth the anxiety and pain that the tariffs cause - possibly inflation if they remain in place long enough. I would prefer Trump to cut spending and the size of government and allow the economy to continue to run on cruise control. The reduced spending would help with inflation. Tariffs complicate my preferred plan.

My hope is that Bessent will talk Trump out of further tariffs after this first wave is complete.
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Oh. So you're not even following your own advice of "relax, it will be OK." Cool cool cool. Guess what? I also hope that somebody talks Trump out of it, but I doubt it would be Bessent (who got the job by advocating for tariffs). I don't know that there is anyone in Trump's orbit who could possibly talk him out of it. Not even Murdoch media has had any success.

So, if the tariffs do cause inflation (they already have, btw -- markets react proactively; it's why interest rates have jumped after the election), you will admit that your guy fucked up? You'll admit that he fucked up in the exact same way that the liberals predicted? I'm not interested in playing "I told you so" games, but maybe if you can clearly see how badly Trump fucked this up, maybe you'll start to be less credulous about him on other issues. And maybe you will realize that liberals aren't, in fact, libtards. Most of us are quite knowledgeable, especially the party leaders.
 
Shenanigans said:
Unfortunately this is not going to happen. I do think people will vote at least 60% blue by the midterms.

It won't matter, it will be fully rigged. Mark my words.

It's too late, he's going after mail in ballots, and voter suppression in big cities will be tenfold.

As these realizations play out over 2 years, find me. I have already formulated thousands of ways to destroy rednecks
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I'm not much on conspiracies, but I am concerned with legislation to make voting harder (save act) and I'm actually concerned with big tech and Musk finding a way to actually impact voting machines. Plus there's the gerrymandering. God were fucked.
 
Ramrouser said:
I'm on record as saying I'm not a fan of Trump's tariff policies. They'll be a quick settlement and perhaps a factory or two will relocate to the US (like the Civic plant to Indiana) but I don't think it's worth the anxiety and pain that the tariffs cause - possibly inflation if they remain in place long enough. I would prefer Trump to cut spending and the size of government and allow the economy to continue to run on cruise control. The reduced spending would help with inflation. Tariffs complicate my preferred plan.

My hope is that Bessent will talk Trump out of further tariffs after this first wave is complete.
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Wow, at least you see the issue with tariffs, I'm sure it's for personal gain...

To bad you can't see that trumps methodologies for cutting government will cost more in the long run.

Nothing is woth the anxiety that trump is causing.

It will be nice when he's gone, hopefully we have a real leader with real ideas to help everyone as our next President.

The pubs will probably run JD, once again demonstrating that they don't give a fuck about people or good policy.
 
superrific said:
Oh. So you're not even following your own advice of "relax, it will be OK." Cool cool cool. Guess what? I also hope that somebody talks Trump out of it, but I doubt it would be Bessent (who got the job by advocating for tariffs). I don't know that there is anyone in Trump's orbit who could possibly talk him out of it. Not even Murdoch media has had any success.

So, if the tariffs do cause inflation (they already have, btw -- markets react proactively; it's why interest rates have jumped after the election), you will admit that your guy fucked up? You'll admit that he fucked up in the exact same way that the liberals predicted? I'm not interested in playing "I told you so" games, but maybe if you can clearly see how badly Trump fucked this up, maybe you'll start to be less credulous about him on other issues. And maybe you will realize that liberals aren't, in fact, libtards. Most of us are quite knowledgeable, especially the party leaders.
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I don't particularly like Trump's tariff policies but I don't think the sky is falling so "relax" is appropriate. If the tariff issues aren't settled in the coming days/weeks, then I agree he made a mistake on this issue. But, one thing about Trump is that he course corrects very quickly (not an ideologue) if things go sideways.
 
Ramrouser said:
But, one thing about Trump is that he course corrects very quickly (not an ideologue) if things go sideways.
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You can't possibly be serious. He's still fighting over the 2020 election and J6. He's still got grudges from his first term and is acting on them. He sure as hell didn't course correct on Covid. He didn't course correct on killing Obamacare.

And more recently, even though DOGE has been making loads and loads of mistakes, firing people stupidly, eviscerating critical infrastructure, and saving basically no money, Trump continues to give Elon a green light.

In what universe does Trump course correct once he gets his mind made up?
 
Trump course corrects since he arrives at the office with the attitude that every day is a new day - "let's just see what happens." He's transactional and nonideological.

Trump does hold grudges but it appears he plans to "forgive" Z by his announcement of the minerals deal with Ukraine in tonight's SOTU. If so, it would be a huge shift from just Friday afternoon.
 
When you have a party who purposely (and the fact that illegal immigration is down by 90+ percent since Trump became president with the exact same immigration laws only proves it was on purpose) flooded the country with illegal immigrants from all over the world leading to all the problems that will surly result, who has no desire to aggressively prosecute criminals, who wants to call a mother an inseminated person, who can't find a dollar they don't want to spend, who thinks men should be able to compete in women's sports, who can't even tell you what a woman is to begin with, and this is just a small sample of a long list of craziness....what do you expect?
 
Ramrouser said:
Trump course corrects since he arrives at the office with the attitude that every day is a new day - "let's just see what happens." He's transactional and nonideological.

Trump does hold grudges but it appears he plans to "forgive" Z by his announcement of the minerals deal with Ukraine in tonight's SOTU. If so, it would be a huge shift from just Friday afternoon.
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It's not course correction until he stops taking Putin's side and starts taking Ukraine's side, and stops shitting on our allies.

What you're talking about isn't course correction. It's masturbation.
 
Ramrouser said:
Trump course corrects since he arrives at the office with the attitude that every day is a new day - "let's just see what happens." He's transactional and nonideological.

Trump does hold grudges but it appears he plans to "forgive" Z by his announcement of the minerals deal with Ukraine in tonight's SOTU. If so, it would be a huge shift from just Friday afternoon.
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I think this played out so trump could announce the deal tonight so he could get the maximum amount of praise possible
 
PandemicBlue said:
When you have a party who purposely (and the fact that illegal immigration is down by 90+ percent since Trump became president with the exact same immigration laws only proves it was on purpose) flooded the country with illegal immigrants from all over the world leading to all the problems that will surly result, who has no desire to aggressively prosecute criminals, who wants to call a mother an inseminated person, who can't find a dollar they don't want to spend, who thinks men should be able to compete in women's sports, who can't even tell you what a woman is to begin with, and this is just a small sample of a long list of craziness....what do you expect?
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Stop watching fox news. Everyone who works there thanks you for being a stupid rube. We all know you won't stop watching. It's like a tick.
 
UNCatTech said:
Wow, at least you see the issue with tariffs, I'm sure it's for personal gain...

To bad you can't see that trumps methodologies for cutting government will cost more in the long run.

Nothing is woth the anxiety that trump is causing.

It will be nice when he's gone, hopefully we have a real leader with real ideas to help everyone as our next President.

The pubs will probably run JD, once again demonstrating that they don't give a fuck about people or good policy.
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JD Vance is only the nominee if Trump dies before the end of his first term; Vance is not winning a contested nomination fight.
 
PandemicBlue said:
When you have a party who purposely (and the fact that illegal immigration is down by 90+ percent since Trump became president with the exact same immigration laws only proves it was on purpose) flooded the country with illegal immigrants from all over the world leading to all the problems that will surly result, who has no desire to aggressively prosecute criminals, who wants to call a mother an inseminated person, who can't find a dollar they don't want to spend, who thinks men should be able to compete in women's sports, who can't even tell you what a woman is to begin with, and this is just a small sample of a long list of craziness....what do you expect?
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Hard to believe anyone could be that out of touch. Problem is that every national, high profile position, the faces of the party are filled with radical and divisive people. Not a Jeff Jackson type to be found anywhere. How do you get rid of aoc, newsome, warren, bernie (although I like bernie from the standpoint he is genuine), and kamala. There doesn't seem to be any room for a JJ.
 
Callatoroy said:
That was kind of weak. You can and must do better.
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Your wife said it was funny. She hit send. I told her about exactly how I'm going to shit on your redneck face, she said the plan was solid, but my shit won't be. I'm gonna have black box pinot, cuddle fish, and tofu saag, specifically for your face.
 
HintonJamesHeel said:
Democrats are the party that’s good at governing but so so so so bad at messaging. Because they are so bad at messaging, nothing else matters.

To the majority of the country right now, they are a party focused on letting men play women’s sports, pro-Palestine and the party fighting against funding fraud in the federal government.

They need a leader who can be the point person to communicate why those are inaccurate but unfortunately they do not have that.
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That have no platform. There is no liberal equivalent of the right wing propaganda machine.
 
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