Matt Gaetz Catch-All | Ethics report released

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dukeman92 said:
Trump is also smarter than you give him credit for.
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Based on what? As has been extensively reported, he barely reads or cares to know anything, and has no patience to understand anything in detail. He sits there watching cable news all day. His cabinet picks from his first term were repeatedly huge mistakes and embarrassments that frustrated, not helped, whatever he was trying to do. He constantly fails to understand basic economic concepts and has to have them explained to him. He almost certainly does not realize that the word "asylum" has multiple, very different meanings.

He is absolutely a natural showman and performer. He is great at extemporizing on a mic (at least for people who care very little about the substance of what he's saying, which luckily for him is a large percentage of Americans). he is a fabulous self-promoter and has made a fortune in large part by screwing people; as anyone in business can tell you, having fewer scruples and morals than literally everyone else is a powerful tool in the business world. But is he some savvy political genius? Absolutely not and it is pointless to assume that every stupid thing he does is somehow a hidden strategic chess move.
 
Paine said:
Just get rid of the Senate altogether. No other advanced democracy does this shit.
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You mean just to have a unicameral legislature? Or to not have a legislature at all? I'm fine with the former and strongly disagree with the latter.

Getting rid of the Senate is a fine idea but would require amending the constitution, which is never going to happen in anything close to the current political climate, especially because conservatives benefit too much from the senate essentially being their affirmative action.
 
rodoheel said:
You mean just to have a unicameral legislature? Or to not have a legislature at all? I'm fine with the former and strongly disagree with the latter.

Getting rid of the Senate is a fine idea but would require amending the constitution, which is never going to happen in anything close to the current political climate, especially because conservatives benefit too much from the senate essentially being their affirmative action.
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Yes, a unicameral legislature that is much bigger than the current House would be best. As you say though, will never happen in the current political environment.
 


This is part of what makes the Gaetz nomination particularly bizarre, even in the Trump personnel annals. REPUBLICANS in the HOUSE hate the guy. Just HATE him. This was not a secret and it was not a few isolated RINOs.
 
rodoheel said:
Based on what? As has been extensively reported, he barely reads or cares to know anything, and has no patience to understand anything in detail. He sits there watching cable news all day. His cabinet picks from his first term were repeatedly huge mistakes and embarrassments that frustrated, not helped, whatever he was trying to do. He constantly fails to understand basic economic concepts and has to have them explained to him. He almost certainly does not realize that the word "asylum" has multiple, very different meanings.

He is absolutely a natural showman and performer. He is great at extemporizing on a mic (at least for people who care very little about the substance of what he's saying, which luckily for him is a large percentage of Americans). he is a fabulous self-promoter and has made a fortune in large part by screwing people; as anyone in business can tell you, having fewer scruples and morals than literally everyone else is a powerful tool in the business world. But is he some savvy political genius? Absolutely not and it is pointless to assume that every stupid thing he does is somehow a hidden strategic chess move.
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Look where he's at. You are correct. I've never heard him say anything that was nuanced or substantive. But part of that is the show he puts on to excite the mouth breathers. I don't think we're too far off here. He's a moron when it comes to understanding most things... but he knows people and knows how to manipulate people. Most salesmen do. And that's what Trump is. He's an evil genius when it comes to manipulation... and I believe he played this situation like a fiddle.
 
rodoheel said:
You mean just to have a unicameral legislature? Or to not have a legislature at all? I'm fine with the former and strongly disagree with the latter.

Getting rid of the Senate is a fine idea but would require amending the constitution, which is never going to happen in anything close to the current political climate, especially because conservatives benefit too much from the senate essentially being their affirmative action.
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But on the bright side there would be no reason for you guys to try to get DC and PR as states. ;)
 
rodoheel said:
Based on what? As has been extensively reported, he barely reads or cares to know anything, and has no patience to understand anything in detail. He sits there watching cable news all day. His cabinet picks from his first term were repeatedly huge mistakes and embarrassments that frustrated, not helped, whatever he was trying to do. He constantly fails to understand basic economic concepts and has to have them explained to him. He almost certainly does not realize that the word "asylum" has multiple, very different meanings.

He is absolutely a natural showman and performer. He is great at extemporizing on a mic (at least for people who care very little about the substance of what he's saying, which luckily for him is a large percentage of Americans). he is a fabulous self-promoter and has made a fortune in large part by screwing people; as anyone in business can tell you, having fewer scruples and morals than literally everyone else is a powerful tool in the business world. But is he some savvy political genius? Absolutely not and it is pointless to assume that every stupid thing he does is somehow a hidden strategic chess move.
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I agree with you, but the poster did say smarter than we give him credit for, which is a very low bar. 😁

He can stand up, so we know there is a little brain function there.
 
I am reading some stuff that there is still a chance that Gaetz could wind up back in his Congressional seat. But that would presumably reopen the Ethics investigation so maybe that means there is no way that happens.
 
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