Matt Gaetz Catch-All | Ethics report released

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lawtig02 said:
Yeah, could be a whole lot worse. She’s not exactly a rock star but at least she has a good head on her shoulders.
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If she’s loyal to Trump……more loyal to Trump than the US Constitution AND she has a good head on her shoulders, she worries the shit out of me.

She’s worked for the Trumplican America First Policy Institute. She was part of his first impeachment team defense team.

She’s loyal to Trump.
 
I can say that Pam Bondi flirted with me when I was younger and prettier. My company was installing the phone system for the state attorney's office and my job was to go around and check that all the employees knew how to use them. I went into her office and while I was in her office asking if I could help her with anything, she rubbed my arm a few times. And then I'm completely oblivious and move on to the next office and kick myself forever more everytime I see her name in the news.
 
Zoo_View said:
If she’s loyal to Trump……more loyal to Trump than the US Constitution AND she has a good head on her shoulders, she worries the shit out of me.

She’s worked for the Trumplican America First Policy Institute. She was part of his first impeachment team defense team.

She’s loyal to Trump.
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Of course she is. There’s no chance Trump will ever nominate someone who isn’t loyal to him personally. I’m not saying she’s great. But on the scale of people Trump would realistically choose, Gaetz was pretty close to the far end, and Bondi is not nearly that far down the line.
 
I think this was entirely Gaetz' idea. He floated the idea to Trump in a 2 hour plane ride. Gaetz would take the heat for a week/10 days and then withdraw, it would given him an excuse to resign ahead of the ethics report being released and in exchange Trump would promise to back Gaetz for Governor of FL in 2026. Gaetz now has 2 years to raise money and campaign with Trump's support. It would have been problematic, even in FL, if the ethics report was released.

Whether or not Trump follows through with the promised support will be an open question, but odds are Gaetz was going to resign before the ethics report. Daddy Gaetz was also returned to the Florida Senate this cycle after 8 years out of office.
 
Callatoroy said:
But on the bright side there would be no reason for you guys to try to get DC and PR as states. ;)
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True. Hopefully they will be states at some point, as there's really no reason why they shouldn't be. Especially PR. It's a bummer that Republicans oppose PR statehood purely for political reasons; maybe if Latino males keep shifting towards Republicans, that will change.
 
dukeman92 said:
Look where he's at. You are correct. I've never heard him say anything that was nuanced or substantive. But part of that is the show he puts on to excite the mouth breathers. I don't think we're too far off here. He's a moron when it comes to understanding most things... but he knows people and knows how to manipulate people. Most salesmen do. And that's what Trump is. He's an evil genius when it comes to manipulation... and I believe he played this situation like a fiddle.
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Then you are giving him far more credit and power than he deserves. How has the Gaetz nomination and prompt withdrawal days later helped him at all politically?
 
rodoheel said:
Then you are giving him far more credit and power than he deserves. How has the Gaetz nomination and prompt withdrawal days later helped him at all politically?
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Helped who politically? Trump? Since when does that matter? He is Teflon Don for a reason. He committed fifty more damming actions during his campaign.

And Gaetz political career was already circling the drain. He was about to be LAMBASTED by the ethics committee. This gives him an exit and an opportunity for a comeback.
 
lawtig02 said:
Of course she is. There’s no chance Trump will ever nominate someone who isn’t loyal to him personally. I’m not saying she’s great. But on the scale of people Trump would realistically choose, Gaetz was pretty close to the far end, and Bondi is not nearly that far down the line.
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Exactly. Job requirement No. 1 is loyalty to Trump over everything else (or at least be able to pretend that). Trump isn't picking any Jeff Sessions or Reince Preibuses this time around.
 
lawtig02 said:
Of course she is. There’s no chance Trump will ever nominate someone who isn’t loyal to him personally. I’m not saying she’s great. But on the scale of people Trump would realistically choose, Gaetz was pretty close to the far end, and Bondi is not nearly that far down the line.
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If she’s more skilled than Matt Gaetz, she worries me more than Beavis/Butthead.
 
dukeman92 said:
Helped who politically? Trump? Since when does that matter? He is Teflon Don for a reason. He committed fifty more damming actions during his campaign.

And Gaetz political career was already circling the drain. He was about to be LAMBASTED by the ethics committee. This gives him an exit and an opportunity for a comeback.
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I don't understand your point now. You originally said the Gaetz appointment was some genius move by Trump. That implies that Trump himself got some benefit from it. What are you saying was smart about the Gaetz appointment such that it demonstrates Trump's intelligence? The only thing more laughable than suggesting that Trump made some galaxy-brain political play is suggesting that he did so solely for the benefit of Gaetz (even accepting the questionable premise that this all helped Gaetz somehow). There is absolutely a 0% chance that Trump would do something like this solely to help one of his political allies, no matter how obsequious the ally in question is.
 
rodoheel said:
I don't understand your point now. You originally said the Gaetz appointment was some genius move by Trump. That implies that Trump himself got some benefit from it. What are you saying was smart about the Gaetz appointment such that it demonstrates Trump's intelligence? The only thing more laughable than suggesting that Trump made some galaxy-brain political play is suggesting that he did so solely for the benefit of Gaetz (even accepting the questionable premise that this all helped Gaetz somehow). There is absolutely a 0% chance that Trump would do something like this solely to help one of his political allies, no matter how obsequious the ally in question is.
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Trump received plenty of benefit.
 
dukeman92 said:
Trump received plenty of benefit.
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Whish is what??? Your last post said "since when does that matter?" in response to me asking whether it helped him politically. What benefit do you think Trump has gotten, or will get, from nominating Gaetz to have him withdraw days later?
 
dukeman92 said:
Trump received plenty of benefit.
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I'm interested in the underlying reasoning. I figured the Gaetz appointment might have been because he wanted Paxton, who is truly amongst the 5-10 most odious political figures, in an extremely odious political environment. However, Bondi doesn't, nor did, need any cover.
 
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