OFFICIAL ELECTION RESULTS - POTUS | TRUMP ELECTED 47th President

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finesse said:
There are cases pf people in state and city agencies rigging the system where high seniority workers are racking up $100,000 or more in overtime, both gaining more than their hourly income and padding their pension. There's more problems with this than whether or not to tax their overtime but some sort of limitation on where that ends needs to be considered.
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Good points.
 
finesse said:
There are cases pf people in state and city agencies rigging the system where high seniority workers are racking up $100,000 or more in overtime, both gaining more than their hourly income and padding their pension. There's more problems with this than whether or not to tax their overtime but some sort of limitation on where that ends needs to be considered.
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Signed every major city police department in America.
 
rodoheel said:
What do you think he meant by this? Did he just not understand how the marginal tax brackets worked?
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Perhaps in his day, before Reagan, the tax rates were pretty high. But honestly, the enemy today may just be the Earned Income Tax Credit and it actually being the enemy of additional work.

If you are a low income worker with children, the number one thing you want is to maintain your Medicaid insurance which additional income could threaten. Beyond that, its about the ADDITIONAL take home pay for each additional hour of work.

Because of the Credit's phase out, most low income workers know from experience that additional work just doesn't show up in their take home pay. I once did some tax calculations using estimated tax software for a head of household with one child. The numbers were rather shocking what extra work causes from a federal income tax point view. And that's before state taxes and payroll taxes come into play.
 
How did Nate Silver do this time around? I remember in the lead up to elections there were some comments directed his way.
 
Paine said:
I would say that going on Rogan would’ve been infinitely more valuable than whatever she did with Brett Baier.

Very few people watching Fox were going to vote for Harris. Rogan’s audience is right-leaning, not right wing as you say. She could’ve offered a more compelling argument to these people. Could’ve made the difference.

She didn’t go on Rogan because she didn’t really have a message to tell on his show.
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Didn't have a message? She was the only candidate who articulated a plan on how to attack price gouging on groceries, housing and supporting the middle class with tax breaks. I have no idea what Trump’s plan to help with any of that stuff outside of magical tariffs and expanding the record breaking oil production happening under the Biden administration.

Trump is a showman and it helped the majority of our voting public to ignore his lack of a beneficial plan and the extreme threat he poses to our republic. But at least he's not a woman.
 
superrific said:
Literally all the world's experts on authoritarianism have described Trump that way. Well, almost all. I don't know every single one. Is John Kelly in my media bubble? What about all the other people who worked for Trump and say that he's an authoritarian and a fascist? Why does Trump always make a point of talking about how much he loves authoritarians? If Trump is not a fascist, why does he talk longingly about Xi who rules China with an iron fist? Is he just lying to you? If so, why does he think you will respond positively?

The media bubble is you, dude. I don't even consume all that much media. When I can, I go to the primary source. I know, that's foreign to you. I never watch TV news. Never in my life.

I can't wait for you to get your comeuppance. Your side declared war on people like me. When the shit hits the fan and you're out of a job and prices are going up by 15-20% a year and the Pubs have cut the safety net and you have no unemployment benefits or health insurance, I will have zero sympathy for you. I would rather laugh in your face.

And then Dem politicians, who are less spiteful than I have become, will come in and offer to fix it for you despite everything you've done. When the shit hits the fan, as it did in 08, plenty of you people will vote for Dems because you need to. And then, when the crisis is solved, you'll be back where you are now. We've done this before, too many times.
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You mean the people that he fired are actually talking bad about him? No, say it ain't so. Nobody declared war on anybody. Your side just thinks that anyone who disagrees must be declaring war on me. The angry left is people like you. And when trump doesn't turn in to a dictator and doesn't try to end democracy and inflation isn't out of control and unemployment benefits and health insurance are still there are you going to come on here and admit you were wrong and apologize to all trump voters? No, you won't because to admit you were wrong takes a degree of humility and that isn't your strong suit.

Lol at dems saving the day. I wonder why 70% of the country felt democrats were ruining the day? I guess they were just to ignorant to know how great they had it huh? Liberal arrogance. Another in the long list of reasons you got your ass handed to you, or your comeuppance. Scoreboard bitch.
 
BillOfRights said:
FFS.

Are you pretending that trump had anything to do with it or understood even a little of it? He can't manage a casino, much less global geopolitics.
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Fact: The world was a better place during trump 1.0. Spin it anyway you want. Justify it any way you need to but the world was a better place under trump than biden and whoever was really the president.
 
It’s hard to keep all the players straight, did Trump fire Mike Pence?

Ivanka and Jared, who held top posts inside the Trump WH, also took a complete pass on Trump’s ‘24 campaign. That one could be as simple as they had already sufficiently cashed in and didn’t want to deal with it.
 
Callatoroy said:
Fact: The world was a better place during trump 1.0. Spin it anyway you want. Justify it any way you need to but the world was a better place under trump than biden and whoever was really the president.
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Post the Unmployment rate end of Trump-v End of Biden Mark The Stock Market same dates. Mark the construction of Manufacturing plants sites-same dates. GDp growth
Help me here
 
Callatoroy said:
You mean the people that he fired are actually talking bad about him? No, say it ain't so. Nobody declared war on anybody. Your side just thinks that anyone who disagrees must be declaring war on me. The angry left is people like you. And when trump doesn't turn in to a dictator and doesn't try to end democracy and inflation isn't out of control and unemployment benefits and health insurance are still there are you going to come on here and admit you were wrong and apologize to all trump voters? No, you won't because to admit you were wrong takes a degree of humility and that isn't your strong suit.

Lol at dems saving the day. I wonder why 70% of the country felt democrats were ruining the day? I guess they were just to ignorant to know how great they had it huh? Liberal arrogance. Another in the long list of reasons you got your ass handed to you, or your comeuppance. Scoreboard bitch.
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Arrogance is a two-way street, dude, and you're full of it. The tweets below are from Mike Davis, one of the leading contenders to be Trump's Attorney General. And conservatives like you wonder why liberals call Trump and his allies fascists and see them as a threat. Tell me, do you also want to drag the dead bodies of liberals around and burn them?



 
"The economic benefits of the Biden administration have gone mostly to those less well off. They are, indeed, better off than they were four years ago."

People know for themselves whether they were better off 4 years ago or not. It doesn't take an economics degree to know whether your situation is better or not. Inflation under biden outpaced wages. Fact. Only in the last year have wages exceeded inflation and that is by less than 1%. An overwhelming majority felt the country was on the wrong track. That number includes democrats as well. You can't say people are to dumb to know whether they are better off now or then and imply that their ignorance is why democrats lost the election.
 
Calheel said:
You are going to require W2s to report overtime and regular time separately, adding another bookkeeping expense. Employees will still need to pay state tax, unless the states match the policy. The federal income tax is fairly low (12%, less huge standard deduction) until you get to about $45k, which is less than most hourly workers make. You are making overtime wages more desirable than straight time (they already get paid 1.5x for overtime, and 2x for double overtime), potentially reducing the total number of jobs available and incentivizing parents to spend less time with their family members and more time at work.

Also, are you exempting overtime from the 15.3% FICA tax, or just income tax? If you are taking it out of FICA, you are going to further threaten the solvency of social security.
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Regular time and OT are already tracked separately in many businesses. The software to do the things you mention already exists.
 
Mulberry Heel said:
Arrogance is a two-way street, dude, and you're full of it. The tweets below are from Mike Davis, one of the leading contenders to be Trump's Attorney General. And conservatives like you wonder why liberals call Trump and his allies fascists and see them as a threat. Tell me, do you also want to drag the dead bodies of liberals around and burn them?



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Not as elegant as "elections over john. We aren't campaigning anymore. elections have consequences" But it pretty much said the same thing.
 
mpaer said:
Post the Unmployment rate end of Trump-v End of Biden Mark The Stock Market same dates. Mark the construction of Manufacturing plants sites-same dates. GDp growth
Help me here
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You are wanting to cherry pick certain US economic data that I'm sure you already know or you wouldn't have identified those. But my post said the WORLD was a better place. And it was. Russia wasn't at war with ukraine and the middle east wasn't on fire.
 
Callatoroy said:
Not as elegant as "elections over john. We aren't campaigning anymore. elections have consequences" But it pretty much said the same thing.
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Good god, man, he's threatening to kill people. But you seem perfectly fine with that, as I suspected. Tell me, do you believe that liberals tried to kill Donald Trump, and so deserve to be destroyed? You're really a warped, twisted little dude.
 
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