OFFICIAL ELECTION RESULTS - POTUS | TRUMP ELECTED 47th President

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Paine said:
Don’t you think I should feel worse about that than people older than me? I have to deal with this shit for a long time. That’s why I’m not going to give up and sit here saying dumb ass stuff like hoping that Latinos are deported.
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I'm not going to try to tell you how to feel about it. I'm giving you my perspective. I'm 46 years old and there is ZERO chance that this nation reflects any of my values for the remainder of my lifetime because SCOTUS will be so baked-in. That tells me that I may as well check out. I don't have children. I don't have a vested interest in what happens after I'm gone. I've been too vested for too long. When you've been around this nonsense as long as some of us, we will see what sort of enthusiasm you still have.

I'm too tired to care. I'm not angry. I'm not even disappointed. I'm embarrassed for us as a nation and I'm checked out of whatever comes next.
 
wmheel1287 said:
I'm not going to try to tell you how to feel about it. I'm giving you my perspective. I'm 46 years old and there is ZERO chance that this nation reflects any of my values for the remainder of my lifetime because SCOTUS will be so baked-in. That tells me that I may as well check out. I don't have children. I don't have a vested interest in what happens after I'm gone. I've been too vested for too long. When you've been around this nonsense as long as some of us, we will see what sort of enthusiasm you still have.

I'm too tired to care. I'm not angry. I'm not even disappointed. I'm embarrassed for us as a nation and I'm checked out of whatever comes next.
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I wish my kids were adults and already had careers and I wouldn't have to care, either.
 
wmheel1287 said:
I'm not going to try to tell you how to feel about it. I'm giving you my perspective. I'm 46 years old and there is ZERO chance that this nation reflects any of my values for the remainder of my lifetime because SCOTUS will be so baked-in. That tells me that I may as well check out. I don't have children. I don't have a vested interest in what happens after I'm gone. I've been too vested for too long. When you've been around this nonsense as long as some of us, we will see what sort of enthusiasm you still have.

I'm too tired to care. I'm not angry. I'm not even disappointed. I'm embarrassed for us as a nation and I'm checked out of whatever comes next.
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This is how I feel. I’m 43 and I know that for the remainder of my life, this country is fucked.
 
Hillary 2.0 proves once again my first maxim of American politics - "Never, EVER, overestimate the intelligence of the American Voter."
 
JeepCSC said:
At the moment it doesn’t look like Oliver’s 18,000 votes (let alone my single vote) would have swung the NC vote to Kamala. But also my vote isn’t Kamala’s by right. I left the GOP over Trump. I didn’t become a Dem. Binary politics isn’t helpful or ideal.
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But binary politics is reality here on Earth 1. If a third party wants to be viable, it has to start at the ground level and build. You don't get to fail up unless you're trump.
 
Paine said:
I think it’s more so that a deciding percentage of the electorate wouldn’t know what fascism was if it walked up and slapped them in the face.

Low info and low propensity voters are voting on ECONOMIC issues. They don’t care about Jan 6th. Is it stupid? Yes. Is it the reality? Clearly so. So Dems need to figure out how to message that isn’t just we aren’t Trump.
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Missouri voted overwhelmingly to raise minimum wage to $13.75/hour in 2025 and $15/hour in 2016 while also voting for the politicians who oppose such an increases. Dems have long favored raising the minimum wage.
 
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