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RFK jr to announce ban on all vaccines until he understands what they are

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roostra said:
He has always been crafty - that is not mutually exclusive with not being very intelligent.

There is clear evidence out there that there was substantial action taken in the first administration to provide guardrails against his worst impulses by people with the power to do just that.

There is also clear evidence that he acknowledges that happened and will be explicitly appointing people who won't take on that role.

Now I cannot say what he will try to do and whether he will succeed in doing those things, but it I think it is indisputable that there will be substantially fewer checks on his worst impulses and the risks of him doing something catastrophically bad for the county will be substantially higher.

The question is how much risk are you comfortable with? Does a 2% chance that he could do something that substantially impairs our democracy allow you to sleep at night? 6%? 8%? 15%? Events with enormous consequences have to be taken seriously even if their relative risk is on the low side.
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I’d say the distrust he sewed into our election process alone already substantially weakened our democracy.
 
gtyellowjacket said:
He really didn't do everything he could to overturn a free and fair election. Think about it a different way. If you were the president of the United States, what things might you have tried to end a fair election?

For me, I might have arrested opposition officials or declared martial law and not allowed any certification vote to take place. If I had all the powers of the president of the United States at my fingertips, I certainly wouldn't use some covert code to rally a bunch of civilians to maybe somehow, some way delay a certification vote.
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1. They weren't trying to delay the certification vote. They were seeking to displace it. The goal was to cast the EVs into doubt, so that they would be rejected, so then the election would be sent to the House where Trump would win. It absolutely was a plan to steal the election. Stop minimizing that.

2. Trump wanted to appoint Jeff Clark to do exactly what you said you might do. Clark wanted to confiscate voting machines so they could put out some bullshit report to justify a federal intervention in Trump's favor. When it was suggested to him that there would be massive protests, he responded that they could deal with that militarily. Literally saying, "that's what the Insurrection Act is for."

When the DOJ officials told Clark to pound sand, Clark told Trump and Trump wanted to appoint him acting AG. And the only reason he didn't was that every other lawyer in the general vicinity said they would resign if that was the case.

So what you're saying a president who wanted to carry out a coup would do, was attempted.
 
aGDevil2k said:
www.nbcnews.com

Flu shots among kids fall, hitting their lowest point in years

The U.S. last year hit a grim milestone: the most pediatric flu deaths since before the pandemic.
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MAGA mindset is killing children. I and many other predicted this would happen after the anti-vaccine rhetoric that came out of COVID.
MTG and others squawk about bringing charges on Fauci. The press should ask them about their anti-vaccine rhetoric and how they feel about the results of that.
 
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nycfan said:
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The problem for the rest of us is that a lot of these vaccines rely on herd immunity. Few are 100% effective alone.

I just had a really bad cough that lasted and remained productive for 2.5 weeks. I ended up going to urgent care because my o2 was low 90’s and would drop to 88 or so. The cough was so bad that on several occasions I threw up. Once I had a coughing fit in bed and the next thing I knew my girlfriend was in my face yelling at me to get up. She said I was unresponsive. I don’t think that was true and she overreacted but who knows.

Kind of wondered if I didn’t have something worse than a cold.

The good thing is that for whooping cough, you generally get a less severe case if you happen to get it after vaccination.
 
ChapelHillSooner said:
The problem for the rest of us is that a lot of these vaccines rely on herd immunity. Few are 100% effective alone.

I just had a really bad cough that lasted and remained productive for 2.5 weeks. I ended up going to urgent care because my o2 was low 90’s and would drop to 88 or so. The cough was so bad that on several occasions I threw up. Once I had a coughing fit in bed and the next thing I knew my girlfriend was in my face yelling at me to get up. She said I was unresponsive. I don’t think that was true and she overreacted but who knows.

Kind of wondered if I didn’t have something worse than a cold.

The good thing is that for whooping cough, you generally get a less severe case if you happen to get it after vaccination.
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Sounds like walking pneumonia. I've had it a few times in the past decade or so and those are similar to the symptoms I experienced. The cough can be particularly brutal if left untreated. Walking pneumonia is also going around right now. I know numerous people who have it currently or have had it in the past couple months, including both of my daughters. My older daughter was diagnosed two days ago and is on antibiotics.
 
aGDevil2k said:
They are trying to get the polio vaccine revoked???

Go the fuck away brain worm
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A definite maybe. An attorney closely associated with RFK jr asked the FDA to revoke approval for the Polio vaccine a couple of years back. RFK Jr has said he has never had a conversation with that attorney about the polio vaccine but that's not exactly a denial. RFK Jr hasn't specifically come out against the polio vaccine but has come out against a number of vaccines.
 
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