Russia - Ukraine “peace negotiations”

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FranziaQueen said:
Welcome to 1946. Things aren’t like they were when you were screaming “peace, love, dope.”

It’s a pipe dream that the left harps on.

Come up with new material.
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What’s your fucking problem? Are you Putin’s bitch along with Trump? Please give us some historical basis for your opinions. The Russians have a long history of being an aggressive power in Europe. Since Trump has abandoned our allies of the last 80 years, they have had to change their approach to defense of themselves. None of the countries in Europe trust the Russians. The Finns, Poles , French, British and Germans (just to name a few) don’t trust the Russians as far as they can throw them. Ukraine is just the first step in a Russian attempt to dominate Europe. Putin made the worst mistake a military leader can make. He over estimated his army’s ability and underestimated Ukraine’s resolve and ability.
 
Healing said:
I value your commentary. The handle youre responding to absolutely does not.

My request, if you feel the need to respond to bad faith trolls and bots, don’t use the reply function. At least make them read the board and not just their mentions. Copy, paste, quotations, then respond.
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Thanks for the advice.
 
FranziaQueen said:
Yes… by all means. Keep this place clean and clear of the facts.

None of you have discussed the Joe Biden BS.

They faked a “Town Hall” with paid attendees that he performed so badly in they couldn’t use in campaign ads!

I guess if you don’t have to acknowledge it you never have to admit it happened.

Typical.

And you really wonder why you lost to Trump?

For such an elite educated group the lack of common damn sense runs deep.
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Politics Thread 'Joe Biden Was NOT running the country'

I don't have the time or the desire to post the numerous links stating the facts on this one...

Funny how the media talking head are writing books, making bank on a situation that most of you on here said was "fake news."

But.. as long as it fits your narrative and keeps your party in power that is all that matters.

Every damn thing the left accuse the right of they are already doing.

But you can always claim "racism/"
 
Putin is signaling that a major part of his offensive is going to be on Northern Border areas of Kharkiv and Sumy. That's one thing I have always liked about the Russians. Never much deception.

But this emphasis may tell us something. Unless Trump can give him more then he can get on his own, then he knows he's got to worry about defending his own territory from Ukrainian counter pushes. So grab it while he's got a little juice left in his war machine.
 
Ukraine is daily getting weaker while Russia is steadily getting stronger, and the Russian military has gotten a lot better at what they're doing after the disaster slaughter of the first 2 years. From a technology standpoint, Ukraine was the early innovator in UAVs, but is now firmly behind, and Russian loitering munitions are expanding quickly. Those who only follow MBT innovation miss this. While there's not a tactical collapse of Ukraine's front line yet, it's heading there, and at that point we may even see the number of attacks go down, but the attacks get larger and gain far more ground. Remember what happened after the fall of Ugledar? Russian forces rolled through large areas, whereas before that they spent ~6 months battering their way through Novomikhailovka.

I doubt Ukraine loses the war this year, but you never know with Trump scheming against them every day. They will lose ground, possibly everything south of Kramatorsk if Russia's current efforts pay off they way they seem to intend them to. But depending on just how depleted Ukraine's forces are, next year could be very very grim.
 
Ukraine employs a layered defense. Sparse up front that can be quickly reinforced when needed. Preserves their own, while bleeding the Russians which is their strategy. Land, which Ukraine has an abundance of can be sacrificed. The interesting thing, is they don't even dig in sometimes on the front lines. They let the Russians come over that ground and they pick them off. Then Ukrainians move back in and thereby not have to fight the Russians inside their trenches Ukraine built. That's why often, the war map will show Russia making slight ground gains, only to be lost in a couple days when the Ukrainians move in and mop up.

About 12 to 25 miles from the front line, Ukraine concentrates on taking out Russian artillery. Then 5 to 12 miles from front line they take out moving vehicles. Up to 5 miles from front, they take out humans that move. It's an efficient system of defense.

Russia doesn't bother to train much. Its a meat wave. Open sources have accounted for known 6,000 in Russian officer losses. That's a huge brain and experience drain. So even if Russia captures a critical town or two, then so what? What are they going to do? Russia hasn't shown since 2022 that they can follow up any breakthrough. They don't have the logistics or leadership to do that. And on foot, it won't ever happen.

And it appears the air force advantage has shifted to Ukraine. Many more reports now of Ukraine using glide bombs at the front rather then Russia. Which is funny, because it was Russia that started that. Seem like I read Ukraine had even figured out how to jam the glide bomb mechanism Russia uses.

Yep, Russia is making advances in Drones. Will that really matter as the attacker? For terrorism, yes. For moving the front line? It takes serious coordination for it to matter as the attacker, so I have my doubts if Russia can take advantage.

If I were Putin, yes I'd make one more serious effort this year. If I were the Ukrainians, no way give up anything in a peace settlement.

The Ukrainians got this.
 
Batt Boy said:
Ukraine is daily getting weaker while Russia is steadily getting stronger, and the Russian military has gotten a lot better at what they're doing after the disaster slaughter of the first 2 years. From a technology standpoint, Ukraine was the early innovator in UAVs, but is now firmly behind, and Russian loitering munitions are expanding quickly. Those who only follow MBT innovation miss this. While there's not a tactical collapse of Ukraine's front line yet, it's heading there, and at that point we may even see the number of attacks go down, but the attacks get larger and gain far more ground. Remember what happened after the fall of Ugledar? Russian forces rolled through large areas, whereas before that they spent ~6 months battering their way through Novomikhailovka.

I doubt Ukraine loses the war this year, but you never know with Trump scheming against them every day. They will lose ground, possibly everything south of Kramatorsk if Russia's current efforts pay off they way they seem to intend them to. But depending on just how depleted Ukraine's forces are, next year could be very very grim.
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I don't understand the "Russia getting stronger" bit. Russia's military capabilities have been badly degraded, and that continues. So they're making more drones, so what? They're getting desperation hardware from N Korea and their industrial base is a shambles.
 
Geisterfahrer said:
I don't understand the "Russia getting stronger" bit. Russia's military capabilities have been badly degraded, and that continues. So they're making more drones, so what? They're getting desperation hardware from N Korea and their industrial base is a shambles.
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www.armed-services.senate.gov

The Russian military is reconstituting and growing at a faster rate than most analysts had anticipated,” Gen. Christopher Cavoli
 
Batt Boy said:

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www.armed-services.senate.gov

The Russian military is reconstituting and growing at a faster rate than most analysts had anticipated,” Gen. Christopher Cavoli
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Thank you for the report. I will go thru it for sure. On the reconstituting manpower. It has been noted they were able to meet recruitment goals, as many joined over the last several months thinking the war would soon be over and they could pocket the bonus. Ouch, a little surprise.
 
The General says in his statement that Russia will "roll out" 1,500 tanks this year? Interesting choice of words. Pretty sure what he really means is that they will refurbish old tanks in storage and repair damaged tanks. Actual new, modern tanks manufactured will be a paltry number from other sources like the Institute for Study of War I think.

Anyway, for this war they haven't made an impact.
 
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