So-called Anti-Woke, Anti-DEI policy catch-all

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ZenMode said:
Ok. Someone is going to be upset about anything that happens. The Disney/Woke/DEI thing, from what I saw, was a significantly bigger topic than Hamilton because Disney was fairly clearly going all-in with such nonsense.

Even my wife, who disagrees with me about trans women in women's restrooms, said she 'gets it' in regard to Little Mermaid and Snow White.
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Lord, I never considered that someone was spending a lifetime dealing with your nonsense...
 
ZenMode said:
Ok. Someone is going to be upset about anything that happens. The Disney/Woke/DEI thing, from what I saw, was a significantly bigger topic than Hamilton because Disney was fairly clearly going all-in with such nonsense.

Even my wife, who disagrees with me about trans women in women's restrooms, said she 'gets it' in regard to Little Mermaid and Snow White.
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You have never said what’s wrong with the actress playing Snow White. I posted an article with her picture.
Is she not white enough to play Snow White?
I guarantee you if there was no manufactured outrage about the actress, you would have no problem with her playing Snow White based solely on her looks.
 
One last comment.
Anyone who knows anything about Disney knows it does everything for one reason only - money.
When Disney hires a minority actor they do so because they believe (for probably a variety of reasons) that that decision will result in making the most money.
By the way, it’s the same when they hire white people. Sometimes they hire the right actor to meet those ends (of having a blockbuster hit) and sometimes they misfire.
Disney isn’t leaving cash on the table out of the goodness of their hearts.
 
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Calheel said:
I wonder if he ever got the job. I also wonder how long the apprentice program is for the fairy godmother job, and whether he has to shave the mustache if he gets the job.
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Fun fact, all fairy godmothers are drag queens.
 
But also, there are a lot of young gay boys who are very insecure about themselves who dream of being Disney Princesses. Why not give some of those gay boys just a little bit more hopes that they aren’t different, aren’t alone. Honestly, I don’t get why that gives some people problems.

It’s not about you or me. Or even the guy who’s in the fairy godmother outfit. It’s about that kid, who for a moment in what may have been a very difficult childhood, feels like he, or, she, or they, or whatever he wants to be called could be a Disney Princess.
 
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ChileG said:
You have never said what’s wrong with the actress playing Snow White. I posted an article with her picture.
Is she not white enough to play Snow White?
I guarantee you if there was no manufactured outrage about the actress, you would have no problem with her playing Snow White based solely on her looks.
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I think I did, but maybe not.

By itself, in a different time, there may be little to nothing "wrong" with her selection. In a time where Disney just replaced an very white, red-haired mermaid with a black woman, then replaces a very white character- "white as snow" as a matter of fact - with an olive skinned Hispanic woman, it smacks of DEI/Woke/politics, which appears was the path of Disney, though I think it will change.

On a side note, we went to Disneyland during my kids' fall break last year. I still drink Bud Light and, in fact, had many while watching Arizona Wildcats beat Akron, so I'm not one of those people.
 
I find it absolutely amazing that the cause of much of all of this, where we are right now in this country, all comes down to the fact that a significant part of our population is upset that Disney, which has a checkered path, wants to make stories for everyone.

A lot of folks on both sides of the aisle hate Disney. They are a corporation certainly, but they are also the creators of the closest thing we have left in this world to “magic.” And I don’t mean just in the Magic Kingdom way, but instead in a mythology way.

Disney, more than anything else, has been America’s mythos for nearly 100 years. It is our story.

Every one of us at some point in time has experienced a Disney movie that deeply moved us.

We have also all seen someone younger than us have that same reaction.

You know what it looks like.

For 80 years in this country Disney has been a reflection of America. For a long time though, it represented a very small portion of America and Americana.

As I said earlier, this needed to be rectified. For Americana to truly be representative of this country, it must be of all of this country. Langston Hughes put it as much in his nearly 100 year old poem, “Let America be A,Erica Again,” but which also includes the parenthetical line, “(America never was America to me.)”

More than anything else, I have a passion for modern mythology. Pantheons of gods and superheroes fascinate me because they represent so much of who we are as people.

Allow that “who Disney represents” to grow. There is room for so many types of stories in our world today. We can fight it, or we can be at the dawn of something legitimately good - a mythical world where all stories from all people are, eventually heard, and valued.
 
ZenMode said:
I think I did, but maybe not.

By itself, in a different time, there may be little to nothing "wrong" with her selection. In a time where Disney just replaced an very white, red-haired mermaid with a black woman, then replaces a very white character- "white as snow" as a matter of fact - with an olive skinned Hispanic woman, it smacks of DEI/Woke/politics, which appears was the path of Disney, though I think it will change.

On a side note, we went to Disneyland during my kids' fall break last year. I still drink Bud Light and, in fact, had many while watching Arizona Wildcats beat Akron, so I'm not one of those people.
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I’ve got some good news for you. Just saw an ad for Disney on Ice. All white. 100%
 
This is so silly - literally celebrating the failure of a movie because it dared to use minority characters in place of the traditional all-white ones. I've seen a good deal of criticism of remakes over the years from conservatives (not coincidentally, they were nearly always straight white males) complaining about a remake having a more diverse cast than the original. With the Battlestar Galactica remake they hated that Starbuck was turned into a woman (although that one proved to be pretty popular), they hated Star Trek: Discovery because it had an openly gay couple and black female captain, they hated the new Star Wars trilogy not because it was pretty bad (it was) but because the hero was a female Jedi (a "Mary Sue" as they kept calling her, although Luke Skywalker had many of her same traits). And if the movie or TV series is a flop then they go wild celebrating that it's a flop, and claiming that it flopped only because it had a "DEI" cast. Which means, of course, that they wanted a nearly all-white traditional cast like the original had. And no matter what they say this is what it always boils down to - how dare they feature gays or transgenders or non-whites instead of the original straight white folk that we expect! That's what they're pissy about, plain and simple, and their complaints and posts make that abundantly clear nearly every time.
 
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Ramrouser said:
I, for one, would welcome a black James Bond as long as:

1. He's British;
2. A rugged manly man;
3. Who likes women and martinis; and
4. Who looks good in a dinner jacket.

In other words, please just keep the traditional elements of the Bond series and I'm good.
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Wait until James Bond is gay.

Or, trans.
 
Most of y’all make me laugh. Many of you are intelligent and articulate.

Yet, you engage over and over and over again with trolls.
  • Do you think you’ll win?
  • Do you think you’ll change the troll’s mind?
  • Do you think anyone is reading your replies to the troll and thinking, “That’s an impressive statement?” Hint. Almost NO ONE is reading your interactions with the troll aside from MAYBE the troll. And, that’s doubtful.
Quit giving the trolls hard-ons.
 
superrific said:
For this poster, DEI is synonymous with minorities getting opportunities that should go to white people as they always have.

Sorry. For all right-wing whiners, this is what DEI means.
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Holy crap. Not sure how I missed this...

You sound like Trump. There are no "white jobs" any more than there are "black jobs".
 
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ZenMode said:
Holy crap. Not sure how I missed this...

You sound like Trump. There are no "white jobs" any more than there are "black jobs".
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I'm confused. Isn't a chief complaint of yours in this thread that portraying Snow White and/or Ariel are indeed "white jobs"?
 
wmheel1287 said:
I'm confused. Isn't a chief complaint of yours in this thread that portraying Snow White and/or Ariel are indeed "white jobs"?
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There are more and less qualified people for any job, but there are no white or black jobs. It made sense for Jamie Fox to play Ray Charles. That doesn't mean that portraying singers in a movie is a "black job".

It wouldn't make sense for Colin Farrell to play Ray Charles. That doesn't mean white people can't play singers in movies.
 
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