Tariffs Catch-All

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Silence Dogood said:
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If by that you mean intentionally misleading information, sure.

Here's a question: this German tax -- the $128! -- on the imports, what is it? It's not a tariff, because all tariffs are imposed at the EU level. But he said Germany specifically? So what tax is being applied? Do you even know? I do.

The whole setup is perfectly fair. American exports to Europe pay the same taxes as Europeans do (which is the relevant metric for competition), plus a set of tariffs on top that are tiny and mostly inconsequential. Not entirely inconsequential, but mostly. Trade barriers are quite simply not a significant limiting factor in American exports, which you would learn from talking to pretty much anyone with experience in the field.

Which is why this Donald Trump sycophant has to go on TV to complain about the unfairness of policies that have nothing to do with trade. Nothing.
 
superrific said:
If by that you mean intentionally misleading information, sure.

Here's a question: this German tax -- the $128! -- on the imports, what is it? It's not a tariff, because all tariffs are imposed at the EU level. But he said Germany specifically? So what tax is being applied? Do you even know? I do.

The whole setup is perfectly fair. American exports to Europe pay the same taxes as Europeans do (which is the relevant metric for competition), plus a set of tariffs on top that are tiny and mostly inconsequential. Not entirely inconsequential, but mostly. Trade barriers are quite simply not a significant limiting factor in American exports, which you would learn from talking to pretty much anyone with experience in the field.

Which is why this Donald Trump sycophant has to go on TV to complain about the unfairness of policies that have nothing to do with trade. Nothing.
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You keep talking EU level, they don't have America's best interests
 
Of course they don't. Or, if I had a better editor, "Duh". The EU has the EU's best interests at heart. The point super is making is that the VAT in Germany applies universally to all imports (not just American) as well as products made in Germany.

Do you reasonably expect sovereign nations to modify their domestic tax structures according to American whims? Why would they do that?
 
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Silence Dogood said:
You keep talking EU level, they don't have America's best interests
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Why not answer the question?

Do you understand the tax structure of working with the EU?iPhone?

Maybe you understand the regulatory structure of threading with the EU.

maybe you understand his Brexit impacted those also.

I mean this should all be common knowledge to one that can determine the fairness and impact of taxes and tariffs. Right?
 
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Of course they don't. Or, if had a better editor, "Duh". The EU has the EU's best interests at heart. The point super is making is that the VAT in Germany implies universally to all imports (not just American) as well as products made in Germany.

Do you reasonably expect sovereign nations to modify their domestic tax structures according to American whims? Why would they do that?
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He simply doesn't understand. But he wants to throw out a video of someone using the same bullshit talking points about millions of jobs. Then the guy talks about automation and having 7 engineers. Wow.

The automation will make more money for the C-suite guys than millions of new head count, so we know who will win that fight.

I didn't get to finish the video, does he explain where the demand is going to come from to generate the millions of new jobs? Are those jobs in steel or across all manufacturing, like screwing in little screws on iPhones?
 
If these tariffs were so great for companies and profits, wouldn't that be a positive for the stocks? Why would the markets react so negatively if these are the best thing since sliced bread?
 
UNCatTech said:
If these tariffs were so great for companies and profits, wouldn't that be a positive for the stocks? Why would the markets react so negatively if these are the best thing since sliced bread?
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If tariffs were so great, why don't states and localities in the US apply them to each other? If tariffs were so great, why do the richest countries have the lowest tariffs?
 
So, I posted a little about our change in strategy at work for this years production demands.

Some idiots in IT, in a meeting, tried to claim that this was an example of the tariffs working.

First, this was planned long before trump's stupidity. They only accelerated this project.
Second, this project creates no new jobs in the US.
Third, this project actually decreased our output due to the additional complexity of the other materials.
And this project only exchanges production with our site in Germany, not an addition of production.
Fourth, this happens every fucking year. Every year we evaluate TPC for our production to determine where we make the products, this isn't something new that was driven by a deranged orange lunatic.
Last, the one guy is a died in the wool idiot. BUT, the other guy is the local head of IT.
I so want to tell his trump loving Christian ass that is we would simply remove all tax exemptions for churches we could really cut into the deficit.

How are these people this diluted? Anything that fox news says must be true. There are so many variables they are not considering, like the issues this is causing small businesses, the reaction of the markets, the alienation of other countries, etc. It's fucking amazing.
 
circlesky88 said:
So many episodes of Shark Tank in the early seasons had entrepreneur saying he was manufacturing in the USA and wanted to continue to do that. The sharks would immediately say you really need to go overseas to lower costs.
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Exactly, and the so called "Mr. Wonderful" was the biggest one of all. He always said all he cares about is money and the bottom line, "you have to source from China."

Now, Kevin O'Leary is all over CNBC and other networks supporting Trump and saying we should have 400% tariffs on China.
 
superrific said:
If by that you mean intentionally misleading information, sure.

Here's a question: this German tax -- the $128! -- on the imports, what is it? It's not a tariff, because all tariffs are imposed at the EU level. But he said Germany specifically? So what tax is being applied? Do you even know? I do.

The whole setup is perfectly fair. American exports to Europe pay the same taxes as Europeans do (which is the relevant metric for competition), plus a set of tariffs on top that are tiny and mostly inconsequential. Not entirely inconsequential, but mostly. Trade barriers are quite simply not a significant limiting factor in American exports, which you would learn from talking to pretty much anyone with experience in the field.

Which is why this Donald Trump sycophant has to go on TV to complain about the unfairness of policies that have nothing to do with trade. Nothing.
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He doesn't even understand your question Super. Which is why his response was to point out with his Fox talking points, that the EU does not share our interests.

He could send your question to Fox Infotainment, but they wouldn't understand it either.

Maybe if you try to engage with him further, get a neighbors 10 year old to type the question.
 
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