Trump at Nat’l Assoc. of Black Journalists (NABJ)

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EyeballKid said:
I mean, if there’s zero percent chance that they’ll vote for anyone other than Trump in November—and a 100% chance they’ll vote for Trump no matter how low he goes, no matter what he does, no matter how many laws and democratic norms he breaks—that’s pretty much his base.
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How many voters out there as of today are persuadable by either side? 10%? Maybe less?

If your definition of base is “a voter that is not obtainable by the other candidate” then we are at 45% Trump base, 45% Harris base, and 10% independent.

But that is a weird definition of base. I think of base as the enthusiastic Trump supporters that are highly likely to turn out to vote for him in November. And in that category I would place about 35% of the electorate.

The whole idea of a base is that it is a base. You know, the solid foundation upon which all other support is added. Saying that everyone who will vote for him is part of the base makes the word lose its meaning.
 
TarSpiel said:
I support a mixture of socialism and capitalism.

So do you.

That's why my tax dollars help pay for a fire truck to come to your house when it's on fire (along with 1,000 similar exampbles of how my money benefits you and your family).

You want a fire department based on the principles of free market capitalism? Police department? Military? Roads and infrastructure? Please. Try to be serious.
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The socialism is funny - they want all these public services. They want Medicare when they retire. They want Bankruptcy when things go really really badly.

This country's problem (well one problem) is folks want pure capitalism for the positive things only.
 
TarSpiel said:
I support a mixture of socialism and capitalism.

So do you.

That's why my tax dollars help pay for a fire truck to come to your house when it's on fire (along with 1,000 similar exampbles of how my money benefits you and your family).

You want a fire department based on the principles of free market capitalism? Police department? Military? Roads and infrastructure? Please. Try to be serious.
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Your fire department mention reminds me of this very true anecdote. My grandparents lived in a very small rural community off it the Osage river in Missouri, outside of Jefferson City. We would visit them every year.

In the 70’s, there was a small privatized fire volunteer fire department that oversaw a lot of the small communities in the area. Every year, they would go around collecting the “donations” from the community residents. My grandfather was well known in the area, and always helped them out financially. One year, their neighbors decided NOT to donate for the coming year.

Well you know what happened. Their house had a fire. The fire department rushed their trucks to the fire, because their house was about 30 feet from my grandparents house. The fire truck proceeded to hose down my grandparents house, and only attempted to put out the fire in the other house when it was threatening my grandparents house. The benefits of being a member I guess.
 

Kamala Harris first ran for public office in 2003. Here is an article from 2003 from the SF Gate on her election win, describing her as African American.

So, I have proven conclusively that she was ALWAYS known as being black since she first ran for public office over 20 years ago.

So, PBO - you have been proven wrong on your claim that she has changed her race over time to whatever suits her best politically. Can you admit that?
 
Not to be "that guy" but, long before yesterday, to anyone with two working neurons to rub together, yesterday was not a surprise. Yeah, yeah, grandpa looked liked he was about to drop trous, dig into his Depends, and start throwing poop into the audience. But here's the deal, to the MAGA faithful, yesterday's performance was a feature, not a flaw.
 
PBOHEEL said:
Yeah….
  • Against fracking - Excessive fracking that exposes the environment in harmful ways? Sure.
  • Abolish private insurance - For profit insurance that dilutes and denies care while increasing margins. Insurance companies increased profits by 6%, or $18 billion dollars in the first half of 2023. Do you find those margins acceptable for a system meant to provide healthcare?
  • Mandatory gun buybacks - I haven't seen anything related to this. If there's some reasonable articles promoting this position, please share them.
  • Open borders - This simply isn't true. The bi-partisan border bill that was supported by this administration and prominent Republicans attests to this. In fact, your candidate was the cause of its failure to pass.
  • Healthcare for illegal immigrants - I haven't seen evidence of a wholesale proposal to open Medicaid to all non-citizens. If there's some reasonable articles promoting this position, please share them.
  • Banning gasoline/combustion engines by a set date - If we're talking about pivoting from ICE for new sales after a certain deadline, I'm not opposed to this, granted the government provides heavy subsidies to encourage EV adoption. This world must transition from CO2-heavy producers, and shifting away from ICE would have profound impacts on our environment, potentially removing upwards of 10% of all CO2 production directly. That presents a significant opportunity to help alter course with climate change.
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TarSpiel said:
I support a mixture of socialism and capitalism.

So do you.

That's why my tax dollars help pay for a fire truck to come to your house when it's on fire (along with 1,000 similar exampbles of how my money benefits you and your family).

You want a fire department based on the principles of free market capitalism? Police department? Military? Roads and infrastructure? Please. Try to be serious.
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Tarspiel has it correct. Even as a fiscal conservative, I know that what we have is called a "mixed economy." We have several aspects of socialism set up in our system and have for over a century.

True Conservatives always argued that it was best for the private sector to control and produce most of the goods and services in this country. Government oversight should be limited to controlling abuses and threats to the system (collusion, monopolies, fraud, products posing consumer dangers, etc.)

We have never had a purely capitalist system. If we did, we would never have recovered from the Great Depression. Our entire financial system woukd have collapsed in 2008 (most do not realize how close we were.) Women and people of color would still be blocked from accessing many careers.
 
PBOHEEL said:
So you are for socialized medicine?

Interesting.

In all honesty… not to pick a fight… I’m almost certain most of the posters on this site support Socialism but are afraid to admit it.

Enjoyed the talks today.

I’ll leave you guys to your daily GOP bashing!

Enjoy!
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The majority of Americans are for socialized medicine and healthcare. 60% in fact.
 
DougDaBroadcasta said:
Hi there. My first post here :-) Happy to be alongside all of yall again.

Just fyi--I've noticed on Twitter that there's a growing rumor in the last couple hours that he crapped the bed so hard today he might drop out. Or be forced out. Will believe it when I see it, but just saying...


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Not a snowball’s chance. For Trump, there is no bottom. Look at everything he has said and done and he still ended up as the Republican nominee and he still has his defenders.
 
Calheel said:
Also, California has historically had the lowest bar passage rate in the country for first timers. It has gotten a little better recently, but it used to be roughly 50%. Someone like Kamala should have passed the first time, but if you have distractions at the time of testing, it is easy to fail. I know several big firm lawyers who failed the bar on the first go round - all of whom are unquestionably smarter than Donald Trump.



Bar Exam Results | Passing Bar Exam Score by State | NCBE

Find bar exam results and scores by state or territory, published every spring by NCBE.
www.ncbex.org www.ncbex.org
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Kamala blamed herself — said it her initial bar prep was the most half-assed effort of her life. Lesson learned, apparently.
 
Icky Mettle said:
Not a snowball’s chance. For Trump, there is no bottom. Look at everything he has said and done and he still ended up as the Republican nominee and he still has his defenders.
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Correct. And we'll see no groundswell of (fake) Republicans calling for Trump to drop out of the race. They just don't care, and hope more news cycles will sweep it under the rug.

But it's clear Trump is deranged and/or evil...and he won't get any better...only even worse.
 
PBOHEEL said:
So you are for socialized medicine?

Interesting.

In all honesty… not to pick a fight… I’m almost certain most of the posters on this site support Socialism but are afraid to admit it.

Enjoyed the talks today.

I’ll leave you guys to your daily GOP bashing!

Enjoy!
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Are u for or against social security?
 
PBOHEEL said:
LOL…. Facts are facts. If the judge was impartial and not a Democrat donor and Trump hater I don’t believe that he would have made that statement.

I believe that most on here perceive Judge Cannon as being a Trump judge correct?

So if the GOP has judges do you not think that the Democrats do as well?

Again, it is politics.

Appreciate the discussion.
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You’re gonna throw your back out moving those goalposts.
 
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