Yeah….
- Against fracking
- Abolish private insurance
- Mandatory gun buybacks
- Open borders
- Healthcare for illegal immigrants
- Banning gasoline/combustion engines by a set date
Trump at Nat’l Assoc. of Black Journalists (NABJ)
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lightbluenc
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Ah, conservatives...apparently unable to understand mixed race and ethnicity, so defending saying someone "turned black" is probably the expected reaction. But it's democrats playing "identity politics"?
The stupidity is so annoying, no wonder we're turning into a shithole country, half the population can't understand basic concepts like this.
The stupidity is so annoying, no wonder we're turning into a shithole country, half the population can't understand basic concepts like this.
CallMeTyler
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Did you even read the shared article? It specifically refutes the argument you're attempting to make. You want to have an honest discussion, then actually focus on the merits of the case. Stop trying to obfuscate the topic by bringing unrelated strawmen.
The conviction was clear, the evidence that drove that conviction was clear, and it was a unanimous verdict by a jury, not some partial judge.
Since you don't care to actually read, here's the quoted text for your consumption:
“The finding that Ms. Carroll failed to prove that she was ‘raped’ within the meaning of the New York Penal Law does not mean that she failed to prove that Mr. Trump ‘raped’ her as many people commonly understand the word ‘rape,’ ” Kaplan wrote. He added: “Indeed, as the evidence at trial recounted below makes clear, the jury found that Mr. Trump in fact did exactly that.”
Kaplan said New York’s legal definition of “rape” is “far narrower” than the word is understood in “common modern parlance.”
The former requires forcible, unconsented-to penetration with one’s penis. But he said that the conduct the jury effectively found Trump liable for — forced digital penetration — meets a more common definition of rape. He cited definitions offered by the American Psychological Association and the Justice Department, which in 2012 expanded its definition of rape to include penetration “with any body part or object.”
aGDevil2k
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That tweet is why I joined Spoutible
Words matter.
If you are just going to define everyone who votes for Trump as part of his “base” then base becomes a meaningless word.
There are base voters and “lesser of two evil” voters and everything in between.
If you want to twist the English language to suit some narrative, I can’t stop you. But it doesn’t make for a very precise way of communicating.
aGDevil2k
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Why do you write like you are trying to be a poet? Do you need a line break between every half-thought? Maybe this is a Tar Pit thing.
WaynetheDrain
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Yeah what? You just proved my point.
There are policy differences you guys claim to have with her, and yet you guys can't stop discussing the "Is she black? Is she Indian?" stuff instead.
You're all so fucking weird.
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As with most things, it depends on what you mean as derogatory. If she is found liable in court for sexual assault and the judge publicly states that the behavior would colloquially be considered rape but not technically so under a quirk of NY law, sure.
She failed the bar exam on her first go, passed it the next time, but that feeds a lot of derision. To date, I am not aware of anyone being moderated here for derogatory marks about her intellect, though like anything else, someone dedicated to the task could always go too far.
BlooVooDoo
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If they were removed from Xitter, we’d miss another opportunity to see how awful MAGA celebrities are. Better to have it widely available for ridicule.
WaynetheDrain
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Except, you can't claim to be a "lesser of two evils" type of voter and yet continually find a new "evil" to avoid voting for someone other than Trump. Heelyeah2012 has now had three different chances to vote for someone other than Trump, with three different Democrat candidates to consider. He's managed to talk himself out of voting for someone other than Trump every time.
At some point, you're just a member of the cult, even if you behave more rationally on a message board.
aGDevil2k
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LMAO
Outside of the people who work for insurance companies, who in Hell likes and supports private insurance companies? They are the absolute worst and the way they operate are why our health system is so expensive and jacked up
That is simply not true. Some voters, and Heelyeah is a prime example, won’t vote (or are highly reluctant to vote) for democrats as a matter of birth or culture.
That doesn’t mean they are part of a Trump base. It means they view the magic R as the lesser evil.
Also, California has historically had the lowest bar passage rate in the country for first timers. It has gotten a little better recently, but it used to be roughly 50%. Someone like Kamala should have passed the first time, but if you have distractions at the time of testing, it is easy to fail. I know several big firm lawyers who failed the bar on the first go round - all of whom are unquestionably smarter than Donald Trump.
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CallMeTyler
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There's been some strong research, published in the Cambridge Press journal, that looked into the respective parties and their impacts on minority groups in America.
I'll share a bit here:
"To help answer these debates, we offer a simple, direct test that examines the correlation between party control and minority well-being.39 This test for race does exactly what Larry Bartels’s study did for class.40 We trace the well-being of racial and ethnic minorities over time using objective, empirical measures, and then compare the relative progress of these demographic groups under different partisan regimes. Specifically, we test to see whether blacks and other racial and ethnic minorities fare better on basic indicators of well-being like income, poverty, and unemployment when Democrats control the presidency or whether they do better under Republican administrations."
"To assess well-being, we focus first and foremost on basic measures of economic well-being: income, poverty, and unemployment."
"The pattern of results is clear. African Americans tend to experience substantial gains under Democratic presidents whereas they tend to incur significant losses or remain stagnant under Republicans. On every basic economic indicator t-tests show that gains under Democrats were significantly greater than gains under Republicans. In terms of income, black families gained on average $895 annually under Democrats but only managed $142 in annual income growth under Republicans. The difference in income growth of $754 is not only highly significant (p,.01), it is substantial. The pattern for poverty is even starker. Under Democratic presidents black poverty declined by an average of 2.41 points per year. In sharp contrast, black poverty actually grew under Republicans—by .15 points annually. Finally, the difference is most remarkable for unemployment. The black unemployment rate declined over a third of a point (.36)annually under Democratic presidents while it grew by over a third (.39) under Republicans."
"What is also impressive is the consistency of this partisan divergence over the last half century. As figure 1illustrates, over the different years and different administrations, there are relatively few exceptions to the basic partisan pattern. Generally speaking, in the years when Democrats were in office, black economic well-being improved. Black incomes grew in 77 percent of the years that Democrats held the presidency, black poverty declined in 88 percent of those years, and black unemployment fell in 71 percent of those years. In sharp contrast, blacks more often than not lost under Republican administrations. In fact, during the majority of years of Republican presidential leadership black poverty increased and black unemployment grew. Only in terms of income did blacks make annual gains more often than not under Republicans. The same consistent partisan divergence appears whether we focus on black well-being in isolation or instead on black well-being relative to white well-being. Put simply, however measured, blacks made consistent gains under Democratic presidents and suffered regular losses under Republicans."
"The overall pattern of results for Latinos mirrors what we saw earlier for blacks. Latinos appear to benefit from Democratic leadership and often suffer losses under Republicans. For Latinos, Democratic presidencies are associated with large annual gains in income, substantial declines in poverty, and real drops in unemployment. By contrast, under Republican administrations Latinos tend to lose income, become poorer, and experience greater unemployment. This is true whether we look at Latinos in isolation or whether we compare Latino gains and losses to those of whites."
I encourage you to read through the study. It's comprehensive enough without overwhelming the reader.
BlooVooDoo
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Didn’t Kathleen Sullivan fail her first attempt?Also, California has historically had the lowest bar passage rate in the country for first timers. It has gotten a little better recently, but it used to be roughly 50%. Someone like Kamala should have passed the first time, but if you have distractions at the time of testing, it is easy to fail. I know several big firm lawyers who failed the bar on the first go round - all of whom are unquestionably smarter than Donald Trump.
Bar Exam Results | Passing Bar Exam Score by State | NCBE
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So you are for socialized medicine?
Interesting.
In all honesty… not to pick a fight… I’m almost certain most of the posters on this site support Socialism but are afraid to admit it.
Enjoyed the talks today.
I’ll leave you guys to your daily GOP bashing!
Enjoy!
ChileG
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Pretty much all f
Did he read the article? He didn’t even watch the CNN special he said was “must see.”
When I pointed out that the special opened with a sentence directly refuting the “gotcha” point he was trying to make, he ignored it and moved on.
WaynetheDrain
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I mean, there are third party candidates or the option to NOT vote if you refuse to vote for a Democrat.
Also, Heelyeah2012 has, in fact, voted for Democratic candidates in the past. He's voted for Roy Cooper, and I believe he's voting for Josh Stein this go-round. But still refuses to turn away from Trump on three different occasions with three different candidates on the Democrat side?
So, the "won't vote for Democrats" doesn't actually apply to him.
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Are you for a socialized military or are you afraid to admit that you are a socialist?