UNC Football Catch-All Thread 2024 Season | End of Mack Brown 2.0, Bowl in Boston Dec 28

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I would only like the hire if there is someone already in place to succeed him like they are talking about with his son, and if he doesn't stay past 5 years. Of course being successful helps. It would definitely get eyes on the program and recruits paying attention.
 
OldSchoolBlueBlood said:
A common question is why would Belichick be interested in the position.

As we get older we sometimes want to show the world - and ourselves - that we still have *it*. For example that may explain his interest in having a young female companion. Professionally having *it* means winning games and championships. I am not versed in sports, but how many football coaches have won a Superbowl and NCAA title? Maybe NFL owners think he is too old to be their coach. What better way to prove everyone wrong than by winning a collegiate championship?

When I was a kid everyone told me to "act your age." Now that I am older, I find I still don't want to act my age! Belichick may feel the same.

He would be a high risk/high reward hire. He would attract a lot of attention and NIL funds (surely he has a network of well-heeled friends to tap into). Football money is the engine that drives college sports, including basketball. We could be relevant in football for a change and an even more attractive acquisition for the SEC. After Belichick retires, coaches will desire what would then be seen as a high-profile position.

Hiring him as coach is a crazy idea, but that does mean it is wrong.
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Initially, I was in the "hell no" camp but the more I read about it the more I like the idea of bringing BB in for the reasons that you outlined.
 
Here are my thoughts and feelings on the (potential/probable) Bill Belichick hire.

1. I think it’s very much a “to seem, rather than to be” type of hire. What I mean by that is it seems like UNC wants to go for a huge media gimmick to generate eye balls, media attention, ticket sales, etc. I think UNC is potentially sacrificing long-term program stability for a get-rich-quick, shot-in-the-arm, pie-in-the-sky type of Hail Mary.

2. There is no doubt that Bill Belichick is the greatest NFL coach of all time and one of the greatest football minds of all time. It is also true that Bill Belichick has never coached in college, has never recruited a high school or college athlete, has never navigated the politics of a high-major university, has never had to interact with boosters, is years removed from his most recent major professional success, had a career sub-.500 record sans Tom Brady, and is currently out of work and looking for a job and….not receiving any interest from several NFL jobs that are already open or about to be open. That’s a red flag to me.

3. It is completely unserious to fire one 73 year old coach- who himself was hired in the first place when he was out of work, had no other coaching job prospects, and was brought in to be a stopgap measure that ended up not being a stopgap measure- just to turn around and hire another 73 year-old coach who is out of work and apparently has no other coaching job prospects.

4. At the same time, UNC doesn’t really have much to lose. We are already enormously perpetually mediocre. So maybe completely rolling the dice and shooting for the stars with what is an enormously high risk but also enormously high reward type of hire may not be the worst idea in the world.

5. Ultimately all I want is for UNC Football to win games. And if Bill Belichick is able to win more games than what we’ve been winning, then I’ll be more than thrilled to have to eat some crow for being skeptical of this hire. I never mind being wrong- and in fact in most cases like this I relish being wrong. So if he is ultimately our head coach, even though I will be skeptical, he and the program have my support- with, again, a very healthy dose of skepticism.

6. I want to see Dave Doeren call our players pieces of shit or have his yokel players try to plant their flag on our field with Bill fucking Belichick as our head coach.
 
Turd Ferguson said:
The thing with his girlfriend that is almost 50 years younger than him is weird and gross, though.
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Yeah. I try not to be judgmental of other people’s personal lives or whatever, especially as it pertains to their romantic interests, but I think in this case with someone who is potentially going to be the highest paid employee at the University of North Carolina, if not in the entire state of North Carolina, and who is going to be the most visible representative of UNC, it’s definitely worth questioning the optics. This is a guy who is going to be working on a campus with thousands upon thousands of women that are roughly that same age as his girlfriend; I mean, hell, his granddaughter is a 21 year-old student at UNC. Not saying that anything nefarious would happen, but the optics are at least a little fascinating for a place so image-conscious as UNC.

I mean, objectively, it’s hilarious (and not really in a great way) that we may be hiring a head coach who bangs women that are his granddaughter‘s age and, were he ever to marry his current girlfriend, his sonStephen, who could be our defensive coordinator, may have a stepmother who was not even born when he was 13 years old.

Odd all the way around!
 
Again, I caveat all of this with the overarching statement that if he is our head coach I’m going to cheer for him and our program and hope for the best and be thrilled if I’m wrong. But I just can’t help but feeling like it is a really short sighted move for UNC to rectify one mistake- hiring an out of work old coach whose best years were long behind him- by…. doing literally the exact same thing again. It reeks of poor leadership and un-seriousness. Just like the Mack Brown of 2018 that we hired was not the Mack Brown of 2005 or even 1995, the Bill Belichick that we hire is not going to be the Bill Belichick of 2003 or even 2013. That doesn’t necessarily inherently means he will be a failure here, but it’s just a really really risky move to make for an institution that can’t really afford to botch the football program *again*.
 
They were supposed to have a segment about Belichick to UNC on gameday and ended up basically scrapping it and saying it’s now unlikely.

My two gray UNC sweatshirts breathe a sigh of relief that they won’t be losing their sleeves.
 
Peppers49 said:
They were supposed to have a segment about Belichick to UNC on gameday and ended up basically scrapping it and saying it’s now unlikely.

My two gray UNC sweatshirts breathe a sigh of relief that they won’t be losing their sleeves.
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Dude. I thought I was losing my marbles. Like at the very beginning of the show I was pretty sure that I saw they were going to do some big segment about Belichick and UNC at 9:45 and then it was an hour later that they finally did a tiny snippet say they believe it is unlikely to occur. I thought I had totally missed something.
 
CFordUNC said:
Dude. I thought I was losing my marbles. Like at the very beginning of the show I was pretty sure that I saw they were going to do some big segment about Belichick and UNC at 9:45 and then it was an hour later that they finally did a tiny snippet say they believe it is unlikely to occur. I thought I had totally missed something.
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I think that between the time they teased the segment earlier this morning to when they were actually going to do it, they got wind that it wasn’t actually going to happen and they had to pivot.
 
He is an a$$. We shoud also hire someone young that could last in the position. We need a long term view instead of these junk-food type high hires.
 
farce© said:
Belichick’s 37 year old son Stephen is the defensive coordinator at U of Washington. Let’s say his Dad becomes the UNC head coach, Stephen becomes UNC DC working with his Dad. They get a lot of attention, build the brand and bring in some talent. Then BB retires and his son becomes head coach. It’s setting up his son for the future and using the media attention Belichick brings to build a foundation. Just a theory.
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Yeah I read this morning that this is the plan. I thought it was all PR/BS but perhaps I was mistaken.
 
I just hope we don't go cheap and take someone who is iffy at best. I'm not saying I'm for Belicheck or Sumrall or whomever, but hiring Belicheck would at least be different from the usual and make a national splash and bring a lot of attention to the UNC football program, which might not be such a bad thing, and Sumrall seems like one of the best young up-and-coming coaches. If this is another "underwhelming" hire I don't think fan interest in the football program is going to fully return, and I don't see how it will help recruiting.
 
SmilingJack said:
Yeah I read this morning that this is the plan. I thought it was all PR/BS but perhaps I was mistaken.
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so hire old man Belicheck for a year or two on the cheap... maybe 1 million/yr to give us some PR

then hire his 37yo son who had a decent year as DC for Washington and give him a 3yr contract as HC for 2 million/yr...

I'm fairly confident that coaching combo could continue our 100 year tradition as a 7-5 football program.
 
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