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Mulberry Heel said:
State beats Pitt to keep their ACC Tourney hopes alive, only to see them dashed when Notre Dame beat Stanford by two later tonight. I'm well aware that we have our own problems, but watching State lose and have their hopes dashed always feels good, no matter how well or poorly we're doing.
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As long as it's not so bad we can't laugh at State, there's always hope.
 
So, do the Heels have to beat Duke or win the ACC tournament to get in the big dance? Would beating Duke be enough if they don't win the ACC tournament?
 
bluhevn said:
So, do the Heels have to beat Duke or win the ACC tournament to get in the big dance? Would beating Duke be enough if they don't win the ACC tournament?
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If they lose to dook, which they won't, then they definitely need to make it to the semi-finals to have a chance and the finals to feel confident about making they tourney.

Performance in the Maui Invitational not withstanding, however, this team is built for a multiple day tournament.
 
bluhevn said:
So, do the Heels have to beat Duke or win the ACC tournament to get in the big dance? Would beating Duke be enough if they don't win the ACC tournament?
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Beating Duke would help significantly. If we beat Duke and at least reach the ACCT semifinals, I think we’re guaranteed a spot. If we lose to Duke, I think we need to reach the ACCT semifinals to have a real shot.
 
Obviously, beating dook would be awesome and would essentially put us in the NCAAT, but what we really can’t afford is to let dook blow us out again.

There’s a clear path forward for us to make the tournament if we can keep the dook game under a 10 point loss and we reach the ACCT semifinals.
 
sringwal said:
If they lose to dook, which they won't, then they definitely need to make it to the semi-finals to have a chance and the finals to feel confident about making they tourney.

Performance in the Maui Invitational not withstanding, however, this team is built for a multiple day tournament.
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I believe a Duke win and we are in. It would sort of make a better argument for the close quad 1 losses.
 
SnoopRob said:
Obviously, beating dook would be awesome and would essentially put us in the NCAAT, but what we really can’t afford is to let dook blow us out again.

There’s a clear path forward for us to make the tournament if we can keep the dook game under a 10 point loss and we reach the ACCT semifinals.
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Does the margin of a loss on Saturday really matter as far as our tournament resume is concerned? Obviously losing by 40 would hurt our advanced metrics more than losing a close one, but I think at the end of the day either result would still mean that we have to make it to the ACCT finals to feel confident in an at-large berth.
 
Beat dook and we are in. A close loss doesn't help too much in my opinion. We would then have to hope we would play Louisville and Clemson and beat them in the tournament. We are playing better lately even though it has been against some really bad teams.
 
bluhevn said:
So, do the Heels have to beat Duke or win the ACC tournament to get in the big dance? Would beating Duke be enough if they don't win the ACC tournament?
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I think they have to beat Duke, either Saturday or in the ACC tournament, and any loss to them has to be close and competitive. I don’t think beating a UL or Clemson only will get them in. The committee seems to like quality q1 wins when differentiating bubble teams, and UNC doesn’t have any (UCLA is arguable at the moment) while others have a few each.
 
Peppers49 said:
Does the margin of a loss on Saturday really matter as far as our tournament resume is concerned? Obviously losing by 40 would hurt our advanced metrics more than losing a close one, but I think at the end of the day either result would still mean that we have to make it to the ACCT finals to feel confident in an at-large berth.
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I think it does for one reason...our NET is creeping up high enough that we're getting close to being in despite our quad issues.

We're gonna be ~11 point underdogs to dook. Even if we lose, if we can keep it under 5, we'll get a boost in the advanced metrics. If we can get our NET ranking up to 35, we'll be hard to leave out even without a victory over dook. Now, that would probably still take a victory over another Q1 team, but we have to do everything possible to make it tough for the selection committee to leave us out.
 
SnoopRob said:
I think it does for one reason...our NET is creeping up high enough that we're getting close to being in despite our quad issues.

We're gonna be ~11 point underdogs to dook. Even if we lose, if we can keep it under 5, we'll get a boost in the advanced metrics. If we can get our NET ranking up to 35, we'll be hard to leave out even without a victory over dook. Now, that would probably still take a victory over another Q1 team, but we have to do everything possible to make it tough for the selection committee to leave us out.
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2 more wins seems like it would do it but need 1 of them to be a Q1 to feel safe.
 
SnoopRob said:
Obviously, beating dook would be awesome and would essentially put us in the NCAAT, but what we really can’t afford is to let dook blow us out again.

There’s a clear path forward for us to make the tournament if we can keep the dook game under a 10 point loss and we reach the ACCT semifinals.
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I would love to partake in these discussions if possible and speak about this like adults.

In the seven seasons they've used the quad system, no team has made the tournament with as bad a record as Carolina has vs Quad 1 teams. If Duke beats you again, I don't think you can sneak in unless you win the ACCT

And I don't agree. Teams who finish Top five in the ACC should get into the dance.
 
dukeman92 said:
I would love to partake in these discussions if possible and speak about this like adults.

In the seven seasons they've used the quad system, no team has made the tournament with as bad a record as Carolina has vs Quad 1 teams. If Duke beats you again, I don't think you can sneak in unless you win the ACCT

And I don't agree. Teams who finish Top five in the ACC should get into the dance.
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This is where I am at too.
 
SnoopRob said:
I think it does for one reason...our NET is creeping up high enough that we're getting close to being in despite our quad issues.

We're gonna be ~11 point underdogs to dook. Even if we lose, if we can keep it under 5, we'll get a boost in the advanced metrics. If we can get our NET ranking up to 35, we'll be hard to leave out even without a victory over dook. Now, that would probably still take a victory over another Q1 team, but we have to do everything possible to make it tough for the selection committee to leave us out.
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Maybe so. I still don’t think a close loss Saturday + just 1 more theoretical Q1 win in the ACCT leaves us in a comfortable spot at all. We’d probably need a lot of results in other conference regular season finales and tournaments to break our way in that scenario.
 
donbosco said:
JESUCRISTO whenever I see loonardee's name I have to say "Fuck Him" and do wonder what the hell he ever did to wield such power -- and I did investigate that - found zero reason.
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Fortunately, I doubt he wields any power.

He likely does make nice $$$ for being FOS.
 
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