UNC ONLY BASKETBALL 2024-25 SEASON

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stankeylegjones said:
I don't think its an NIL issue. HD has matched offers for many targets. They, for whatever reason, don't want to come here.
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This isn’t 1978. Running sprints because some player utters a curse word in a moment of frustration during practice might not be the sort of environment today’s young players choose to play in. Maybe kids today aren’t offended by words they hear in their music, on TV, from their friends and in their homes and don’t think it is the coach’s place to police their vocabulary. Maybe this coach just isn’t in tune with young people today.
 
stankeylegjones said:
That you think it's negative to point out the troubling aspect of the current program is telling.

But, okay, let's stay positive. What positives have you taken away from HD/team this year?
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They’ve been very competitive against some of the best teams in the country and haven’t quit at any point.

More than that though, this is my team I’m going to hold out hope and believe things will get better until the bitter end.
 
UNC should have opened the season ranked around #20 or #21 and should not have played a lose-lose line-up of the following…

Current rankings on left, right, then
#8 Kansas #1
#2 Auburn #4
#6 Alabama #10
#7 Florida #7
#18 UCLA #18
# 20 Mich. State unranked
#22 Dayton unranked

Instead of a sensible ranking we started off at #9. Arguably we have only lost to one team ranked below us, MSU.
 
farce© said:
This isn’t 1978. Running sprints because some player utters a curse word in a moment of frustration during practice might not be the sort of environment today’s young players choose to play in. Maybe kids today aren’t offended by words they hear in their music, on TV, from their friends and in their homes and don’t think it is the coach’s place to police their vocabulary. Maybe this coach just isn’t in tune with young people today.
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I had no idea about that. Thanks for the link!
 
Bigs23 said:
They’ve been very competitive against some of the best teams in the country and haven’t quit at any point.

More than that though, this is my team I’m going to hold out hope and believe things will get better until the bitter end.
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Then what's causing them to come out flat, in all of those games?

I'm not giving up hope either, and will watch until the end too. However, that doesn't mean that you can't also point out things that need to change.
 
Bigs23 said:
They’ve been very competitive against some of the best teams in the country and haven’t quit at any point.

More than that though, this is my team I’m going to hold out hope and believe things will get better until the bitter end.
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Against all evidence, well, that just makes you dumb and stubborn.
 
stankeylegjones said:
I don't think its an NIL issue. HD has matched offers for many targets. They, for whatever reason, don't want to come here.
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Looking at HD's rotation and lineups you can plainly see that the more talented new guys get to sit behind and not get into games at a rate of other programs. Therefor they do not receive game time development and exposure. In the era of instant gratification and $$$$$ this will no longer work. The young'uns are not willing to sit and wait their turn at UNC while they can get injected into the lineup immediately somewhere else that now gets as much exposure as UNC.
 
We will limp along this year and end up getting close to the bubble maybe. Next year is looming large. A huge roster turnover is going to happen and it will be Hubert's final chance to show that he is the guy going forward. I don't think he would be fired after this year unless the wheels really fall off and we end up under .500 in the conference, unlikely but you never know.
 
Bigs23 said:
Some, yourself included, are consistently negative, even with great teams and HOF coaches.
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Maybe we should take a look back at the last few seasons.

2018-2019 season was good. They were a number 1 seed in the NCAA tournament, but lost to Auburn in the Sweet 16.

2019-2020 season was awful. Losing record and wouldn't have made the tournament if they didn't cancel it because of COVID.

2020-2021 season was not good. 18-11, 10-6 in the ACC with an 8 seed in the tournament, and lost the first round. Roy retired.

2021-2022 season was another lackluster season for Hubert's first year until the beat Duke at Cameron and then went on the tournament run. But they were an 8th seed and were on the bubble to make the tournament before they beat Duke at Cameron. It wasn't really a good season until that point. You can think Manek for getting hot and Love for making some ridiculous shots to end the season on a great run.

2022-2023 season was another bad season. Preseason number 1 only to end up 20-13 and didn't make the tournament.

2023-2024 season was a good season again. They won the ACC regular season, had a 1 seed in the NCAA tournament, but once again lost in the Sweet 16 to a SEC team. This time it was Alabama.

This season has been pretty average at best so far. They haven't had any wins against top 25 teams except for Dayton. They have a habit of starting out slow and then trying to come back to win against good teams. If they lose some ACC games against anyone but Duke it could mean they miss another tournament, which would be 2 out of the last 3 seasons, and 3 out of the last 6. That's simply not Carolina basketball.

So they have had 2 good seasons out of the last 6 that ended in Sweet 16 losses, both as a 1 seed. They had 1 season that wasn't good until a win at Duke and a great tournament run. And the other 3 seasons were awful. This season so far reminds me of Roy's last season. The numbers don't lie. The program has been in a decline overall the last few seasons and has not had any consistency at all, with the majority of the last 6 seasons being bad.
 
Turd Ferguson said:
Maybe we should take a look back at the last few seasons.

2018-2019 season was good. They were a number 1 seed in the NCAA tournament, but lost to Auburn in the Sweet 16.

2019-2020 season was awful. Losing record and wouldn't have made the tournament if they didn't cancel it because of COVID.

2020-2021 season was not good. 18-11, 10-6 in the ACC with an 8 seed in the tournament, and lost the first round. Roy retired.

2021-2022 season was another lackluster season for Hubert's first year until the beat Duke at Cameron and then went on the tournament run. But they were an 8th seed and were on the bubble to make the tournament before they beat Duke at Cameron. It wasn't really a good season until that point. You can think Manek for getting hot and Love for making some ridiculous shots to end the season on a great run.

2022-2023 season was another bad season. Preseason number 1 only to end up 20-13 and didn't make the tournament.

2023-2024 season was a good season again. They won the ACC regular season, had a 1 seed in the NCAA tournament, but once again lost in the Sweet 16 to a SEC team. This time it was Alabama.

This season has been pretty average at best so far. They haven't had any wins against top 25 teams except for Dayton. They have a habit of starting out slow and then trying to come back to win against good teams. If they lose some ACC games against anyone but Duke it could mean they miss another tournament, which would be 2 out of the last 3 seasons, and 3 out of the last 6. That's simply not Carolina basketball.

So they have had 2 good seasons out of the last 6 that ended in Sweet 16 losses, both as a 1 seed. They had 1 season that wasn't good until a win at Duke and a great tournament run. And the other 3 seasons were awful. This season so far reminds me of Roy's last season. The numbers don't lie. The program has been in a decline overall the last few seasons and has not had any consistency at all, with the majority of the last 6 seasons being bad.
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CBB has changed. That run is probably still among the better ones in the sport over that time period.

A lot of you are pining for something that isn’t coming back.
 
Bigs23 said:
CBB has changed. That run is probably still among the better ones in the sport over that time period.

A lot of you are pining for something that isn’t coming back.
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But your argument that people are being negative for no reason is invalid when you look at how it has been during this time period objectively.
 
The problem with this season is it's mostly a repeat of 2022-23. An imperfect roster that still has a ton of talent, losing every close game because they fail (or don't know how) to adjust

Last year was a huge step in the right direction for Hubert (I thought at the time) but he is right back to where he started. I mean he has pretty much admitted as much, that he doesn't know how to fix things with this group

Just watch the offense. It's horrible and the only thing that keeps them in games is tough 1 on 1 shot making or points off turnovers. It makes you wonder how last year would've went if RJ doesn't shoot such a ridiculous %
 
Turd Ferguson said:
But your argument that people are being negative for no reason is invalid when you look at how it has been during this time period objectively.
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Your feelings are based on a bygone era.

Relative to the rest of CBB UNC’s recent history is very good.
 
Bigs23 said:
Your feelings are based on a bygone era.

Relative to the rest of CBB UNC’s recent history is very good.
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Has nothing to do with feelings. It's the numbers and results. Those are objective. I don't care about the rest of college basketball.
 
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