UNC ONLY BASKETBALL 2024-25 SEASON

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Icky Mettle said:
Glad I’m not watching, but checking the score, I think this marks the end of the Hubert Davis era. And I previously thought he should be given at least one more year. This is unacceptable. And I din’t mean just this game. It’s an accumulation.
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I don’t think this game really moves the needle much one way or the other regarding his coaching future. I mean it went about like most people probably expected: team rolled over early and got themselves in a comically large deficit and then made a run in garbage team to make the final score not look like a total train wreck.

I think it would take the team completely folding up shop the rest of the season and finishing close to .500 or worse for the PTB to seriously consider making a coaching change. Which I guess you can’t rule out completely at this point, but I don’t see it happening. The ACC is just so bad.
 
Peppers49 said:
I don’t think this game really moves the needle much one way or the other regarding his coaching future. I mean it went about like most people probably expected: team rolled over early and got themselves in a comically large deficit and then made a run in garbage team to make the final score not look like a total train wreck.

I think it would take the team completely folding up shop the rest of the season and finishing close to .500 or worse for the PTB to seriously consider making a coaching change. Which I guess you can’t rule out completely at this point, but I don’t see it happening. The ACC is just so bad.
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I think you're incorrect here. Nobody saw the garbage time comeback. 95% of UNC fans were done by halftime....and it wasn't just this single game they were done with.
 
Peppers49 said:
I don’t think this game really moves the needle much one way or the other regarding his coaching future. I mean it went about like most people probably expected: team rolled over early and got themselves in a comically large deficit and then made a run in garbage team to make the final score not look like a total train wreck.
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I thought we’d come out on fire in the first half and look decent, then dook would kill us on the second.

I guess I got it exactly backwards.
 
wmheel1287 said:
I think you're incorrect here. Nobody saw the garbage time comeback. 95% of UNC fans were done by halftime....and it wasn't just this single game they were done with.
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You think this one result is the breaking point with the PTB that will get him fired? I just don’t see it.

I’m trying to look at the big picture here. If the plan going into this game was to give Hubert another season, I don’t think this result changes that. Of course if the team goes on a really bad losing streak this month (which would mean losing to some downright pitiful opponents), the equation could certainly change.
 
Lots of people didn’t watch - or said they wouldn’t. Score check list game shows Las Vegas essentially on the money.

Those that did watch are mainly diehards or big time haters - not much change in thinking there.

I’m a diehard but I admit that I did not see a game prosecuted in a likable manner.
 
donbosco said:
Lots of people didn’t watch - or said they wouldn’t. Score check list game shows Las Vegas essentially on the money.

Those that did watch are mainly diehards or big time haters - not much change in thinking there.

I’m a diehard but I admit that I did not see a game prosecuted in a likable manner.
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Watched it all, my friend.

Sad state our program is in.
 
Sorry to say, the better team with better players won easily. The Heels would lose 95% of the time to that team this year.
 
UNCMSinLS said:
Sorry to say, the better team with better players won easily. The Heels would lose 95% of the time to that team this year.
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Well, that's what we said after game 1 in 2022. And then we won the next two. Unfortunately, unless Cade Tyson is secretly Brady Manek, I don't see any magic levers we can pull to orchestrate that kind of reverso for February and March.
 
In my lifetime I can only remember one other game against dook where I felt we had no chance. This sort of sucks. Especially with all that's going wrong in the world.
 
I don’t know anything but I feel like it’s split. The ones ready to move on are people who didn’t like the hire in the first place(me included). I think he gets another year. After the Clemson game the schedule eases up again until the second dook game. State, UVa, Miami at home and VT, FSU on the road. I would’ve said two weeks ago we shouldn’t lose to any of those teams. But this team feels like it is starting to possibly spiral so nothing would surprise me.
 
I feel like if UNC decides to keep Coach Davis hiring a top notch GM for the basketball program is a must - and perhaps requiring an upgrade among the assistant coaches?
 
GoHeelsweeeehoooo said:
I feel like if UNC decides to keep Coach Davis hiring a top notch GM for the basketball program is a must - and perhaps requiring an upgrade among the assistant coaches?
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I think people see the GM idea and equate it with the way that role functions in the NBA or NFL.

Yes, UNC having a GM would definitely help with the administrative side of things in terms of working out NIL details and making up lost ground on that front. It would also probably help with scouting. At the end of the day at the college level though, all of the personnel evaluations and decisions run through the head coach. If Hubert struggles with roster construction now, hiring a GM isn’t a silver bullet fix for that.
 
Peppers49 said:
I think people see the GM idea and equate it with the way that role functions in the NBA or NFL.

Yes, UNC having a GM would definitely help with the administrative side of things in terms of working out NIL details and making up lost ground on that front. It would also probably help with scouting. At the end of the day at the college level though, all of the personnel evaluations and decisions run through the head coach. If Hubert struggles with roster construction now, hiring a GM isn’t a silver bullet fix for that.
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This is a good point, but there can still be a use for a GM. First, as you say, organizing the NIL expenses. Planning for the future. Things that coaches aren't good at and don't have time for.

The second thing a GM can do is help assess players. It doesn't have to be the case that all evaluations run through the head coach. If we had a GM, maybe the GM says, "I don't think Cade Tyson is that good. Maybe we shouldn't break the bank for him, and if we miss because someone else wants to overpay, I'm OK with that."

I don't know. Your point is good but that doesn't mean the GM position has to be useless. I say this as someone with no ideas how front offices and coaching staffs work together in pro leagues, and no idea as to how it might work on the college level.
 
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