United Healthcare CEO shot and killed

Lando said:
People need to be sad about this, we're talking about a CEO not a dozen kids whose deaths need to be ignore with some thoughts and prayers.
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Or the millions of unnecessary deaths around the world. No, let's be sad about an overpaid CEO whose job was to put profits over people. Yea, that's the ticket.

I will state again, for some posters, I do not condone the man being killed and I am not gloating, just looking at reality.
 
aGDevil2k said:
Yeah I was reading your first part thinking, Amen. Then it turned lol

I want for profit insurance burned. I think when they contribute to death they should be punished. It's different than doctors who are trying to help. They literally put price limits on your life
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I just started a thread about the economics of private insurance. Your participation would be great, but you'll have to open your mind just a bit. It's not necessarily that you're wrong about for-profit insurance, but there's a lot more to the question and it's important to get to the right place with the right reasons.

And you give doctors too much credit. I say that as someone married to and sired by doctors.
 
UNCatTech said:
Or the millions of unnecessary deaths around the world. No, let's be sad about an overpaid CEO whose job was to put profits over people. Yea, that's the ticket.

I will state again, for some posters, I do not condone the man being killed and I am not gloating, just looking at reality.
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I think the logic is like this, and I don't understand what's wrong with it. Let's say there's an earthquake that will kill 100 people. We can't change that. But can we wish that, if 100 people have to die, it would be a group of 100 bad guys? You know, like Enrique Tarrio, Elon Musk, Daniel Ortega, etc. I don't see anything wrong with that, although I've been criticized heartily for it.
 
hedge said:
No, but pissing you off does..
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So you are celebrating the murder of a husband and father because you want to piss off some stranger from the internet that you'll never meet? Maybe talk that one through with a therapist.
 
aGDevil2k said:
Yeah I was reading your first part thinking, Amen. Then it turned lol

I want for profit insurance burned. I think when they contribute to death they should be punished. It's different than doctors who are trying to help. They literally put price limits on your life
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Yes, I am on board with this. It’s fucking horrible.

On a brighter note, I am glad I could give you a laugh today! 😂
 
ZZLPHeels said:
So you are celebrating the murder of a husband and father because you want to piss off some stranger from the internet that you'll never meet? Maybe talk that one through with a therapist.
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There are serial killers who were husbands and fathers. Being a husband and a father is not some totem that grants the bearer additional humanity when their life's work has been inhumane.

I'd wager he created more widows and orphans than his murderer has, by several orders of magnitude. Are we supposed to give him credit because he did it with a pen and for a paycheck?
 
StrangePackage said:
There are serial killers who were husbands and fathers. Being a husband and a father is not some totem that grants the bearer additional humanity when their life's work has been inhumane.

I'd wager he created more widows and orphans than his murderer has, by several orders of magnitude. Are we supposed to give him credit because he did it with a pen and for a paycheck?
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Ok, so maybe we should just round up people, a few hundred at a time. Hook them up to a polygraph and then ask them if they would work for a health insurance company for $10 million per year. If they say yes, or if they say no but lie, then would you be OK with summary execution? Good luck getting rid of the entirety of humanity.
 
ZZLPHeels said:
Ok, so maybe we should just round up people, a few hundred at a time. Hook them up to a polygraph and then ask them if they would work for a health insurance company for $10 million per year. If they say yes, or if they say no but lie, then would you be OK with summary execution? Good luck getting rid of the entirety of humanity.
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If you spent even a fraction of the time you do making up conversations that nobody is having attacking positions no one is taking ACTUALLY participating in this discussion, you might come close to a point.
 
StrangePackage said:
If you spent even a fraction of the time you do making up conversations that nobody is having attacking positions no one is taking ACTUALLY participating in this discussion, you might come close to a point.
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You are the one comparing people who work for health insurance companies to serial killers. Is working for an insurance company illegal? Is it unethical? Does it warrant the death penalty? Would you support a mass shooter going wild at a random health insurance company? Do you think that every employee at BCBS should be sent to prison? I’m just trying to understand where you think the line is. Do all people who work for insurance companies deserve to die, or just the rich ones?
 
ZZLPHeels said:
You are the one comparing people who work for health insurance companies to serial killers. Is working for an insurance company illegal? Is it unethical? Does it warrant the death penalty? Would you support a mass shooter going wild at a random health insurance company? Do you think that every employee at BCBS should be sent to prison? I’m just trying to understand where you think the line is. Do all people who work for insurance companies deserve to die, or just the rich ones?
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Your wild leaps of very limp logic are getting really old. Seems pretty intentional and troll-like, just in case you don’t realize that.

You’re going to get yourself ignored by a lot of posters, but maybe that’s what you’re going for. It’s starting to seem like it.
 
duluoz said:
Your wild leaps of very limp logic are getting really old. Seems pretty intentional and troll-like, just in case you don’t realize that.

You’re going to get yourself ignored by a lot of posters, but maybe that’s what you’re going for. It’s starting to seem like it.
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Leaps of logic? Did you not see the poster I was replying to equate this guy to a serial killer? Yet somehow that logic is acceptable, right?

If you really believe that people who work for insurance companies are mass murderers, how far are you willing to go with that belief? That’s a legitimate question. Is it a dollar figure? I.e., if you make less than X you are cool but if not you deserve to be shot in the back while walking to a meeting?
 
StrangePackage said:
There are serial killers who were husbands and fathers. Being a husband and a father is not some totem that grants the bearer additional humanity when their life's work has been inhumane.

I'd wager he created more widows and orphans than his murderer has, by several orders of magnitude. Are we supposed to give him credit because he did it with a pen and for a paycheck?
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As through this life you travel
You’ll meet some funny men.
Some will rob you with a six gun
And some with a fountain pen

As through this life you travel
As though this life you roam
You never will see an outlaw
Chase a family from their home.

Woody Guthrie
 
I think his death is a net positive for the world. Unfortunately, our current system of justice never does anything to executives who cause unnecessary death and pain the way United Healthcare does.

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I know it's a slipperly slope but I don't think there is any true injustice in this particular death at all. [MOD EDIT VIGILANTISM]

And as for the dumbass argument that anyone here would do what he did for $10 million, that's flat out bullshit. Many of us would take the job, but not do it the way he did it. There is no amount of money in the world that could make me feel good about actively promoting policies that cause pain, suffering and death. None.
 
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UNCatTech said:
Or the millions of unnecessary deaths around the world. No, let's be sad about an overpaid CEO whose job was to put profits over people. Yea, that's the ticket.

I will state again, for some posters, I do not condone the man being killed and I am not gloating, just looking at reality.
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I am also not gloating.

I’m just utterly devoid of empathy for that man. How many millions of lives has he damaged or ruined?
 
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