What did Trump tap into?

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ZenMode said:
Trump says a lot of things….many of which are lies and dumb. Remember he was going to put Hillary behind bars?

Our institutions did, and will, contain Trump. In fact, on the topic of the Mueller report, his obstruction actions would have been far more numerous had the people he told to do things had ACTUALLY done things he requested. They didn’t because they knew those requests were wrong or illegal. Pence didn’t, either. Trump is a deranged fool. He’s very much the exception. The world around him is largely not.
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This is an awfully optimistic post.

Trump might be rewarded in his attempt to overthrow an election he lost, with an actual Electoral College victory. I don’t know what Trump 2.0 looks like. Frankly, he might just be checked out at his age (after vindicating his loss). Or perhaps it’s something entirely different.

The fact our institutions didn’t absolutely crumble. Isn’t much comfort.

About 3/4s of Republican AGs filed or joined a lawsuit to toss the votes of citizens in 4 full states with Republican controlled legislatures FFS. Think about that. The highest legal officers of the R party were co-opted into a SC litigation attempting to disenfranchise about 20ish million actual votes. In order to flip the results of an election with 150 million voters.

When that failed, and Trump couldn’t get his VP to refuse to certify the result, he had leading stooges in his own party try to contest the result. Even after private citizens at his behest interrupted the certification.

His new running mate’s primary (aka sole) qualification is he maintains he would have done what Mike Pence did not. And who won’t public ally acknowledge Trump even lost that election.

Whatever is next … rest assured, there will be no Mike Pence (which sounds absurd to type) and nothing but yes men.
 
Croatoan said:
Neither your ignorance of the true motivations of many Trump voters nor your inability/unwillingness to perceive some of the obvious flaws of the current Democratic Party come as a surprise to me; I’ve read some of your previous poasts. If there were less like you, Trump would not be a threat to win a second term.
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So you are simply reinforcing the notion that people are voting for Trump because they’ve had their feelings hurt by having their actual motives accurately called out?
 
The blame the Democrats for Trump is so absurd.

Demonizing the left and Democrats has been going on for decades. They were "pink" (soft on Communism), soft on crime, too extreme in regards to gender equality, unpatriotic, godless, etc., etc. Those false accusations have existed for so long. People claiming the Democrats are too...fill in the blank, has been a longstanding and ridiculous excuse for Republican voters. The Democrats were too radical in regards to anti Vietnam protests - I have to vote for Nixon. The Democrats are too weak when it comes to Iran and too anti Christian - I have to vote for Reagan. Dukakis let's black prisoners free to rape and kill white women - I have to vote for H.W. Bush. And so and so on.

These current lies about being forced to vote for Trump because of the Democrats is just more from this fictional playbook. And yet, unfortunately, it continues to work.
 
The Trump voters I know are completely brainwashed. I used to be one of them, but COVID and the election denial pushed me out (thank God). But, there is no reasoning with them. If they haven't abandoned Trump by now they never will.

For the small number of undecideds who will determine the outcome of this election, my fear is that they will blame the Democrats for inflation and their economic woes. The dollar doesn't go nearly as far as it used to. And they may justify voting for Trump by telling themselves that no one will see who they vote for when they fill out that ballot, and that maybe all the mean talk and lies and everything else terrible associated with Trump is worth it if they can get back to the way things were financially pre-2020.
 
SnoopRob said:
After reading this post, I'm impressed that as much as you must drool on yourself, that it hasn't shorted out your keyboard.
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May I ask what you find off the mark or offensive in what I wrote? Please note, I am a Democrat and have voted for Democrats for several decades. And most certainly will be voting for Harris.

The thread title is "what did Trump tap into". I am merely pointing out that Democrats have a perception issue with many voters that COULD vote Democratic are finding disqualifying.
 
Had to cut off my wife's grandparents (mostly because of the grandfather) from all contact with our children. Can't help themselves with the political talk (everything they've seen on Fox News is the topic of conversation whenever we're around them). I've warned them a couple of times, but it didn't help.
 
Illithor said:
Had to cut off my wife's grandparents (mostly because of the grandfather) from all contact with our children. Can't help themselves with the political talk (everything they've seen on Fox News is the topic of conversation whenever we're around them). I've warned them a couple of times, but it didn't help.
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I have had to do the same with family members. It really is sad.
 
theel4life said:
I have had to do the same with family members. It really is sad.
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It is sad, because the grandfather has a lot of health issues and probably won’t live much longer. He’s also been really close with our kids since they were born (they’re six and eight). But I’ve told him repeatedly that kids don’t need to have opinions on politics, let kids be kids… I’ve tried to teach them that you respect the president regardless of who it is, only for my eight year old to argue back recently that Trump is going to fix the country and the democrats are destroying it. I’ve got some work to do to reverse this, but the grandparents will be far removed from the equation.
 
Illithor said:
It is sad, because the grandfather has a lot of health issues and probably won’t live much longer. He’s also been really close with our kids since they were born (they’re six and eight). But I’ve told him repeatedly that kids don’t need to have opinions on politics, let kids be kids… I’ve tried to teach them that you respect the president regardless of who it is, only for my eight year old to argue back recently that Trump is going to fix the country and the democrats are destroying it. I’ve got some work to do to reverse this, but the grandparents will be far removed from the equation.
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that's awful.

it is really tough when people who you care about lose the plot to that degree.
 
BlueSmoke said:
May I ask what you find off the mark or offensive in what I wrote? Please note, I am a Democrat and have voted for Democrats for several decades. And most certainly will be voting for Harris.

The thread title is "what did Trump tap into". I am merely pointing out that Democrats have a perception issue with many voters that COULD vote Democratic are finding disqualifying.
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Nothing offensive, just a completely brain dead take.

As has already been pointed out here, Dems have won the popular vote in every election but one starting in 1992. They hold the House and Senate roughly 50% of the time despite significant gerrymandering (the House) and the sea of barely-populated states in the West where land is valued over people (Senate).

But yet you act as if the Dems are barely holding on as a party and only do well when something negative happens against the Pubs. Your post smacks of "Why don't Dems appeal to all people at all times?"

There are certainly things that one can say as valid critiques against Dems, especially at certain local or regional levels, but your post weren't those things. Your post was based in an understanding that Trump and Pubs are somehow more appealing than Dems to the "average" voter, which is a complete falsehood.
 
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