2024 Pre-Election Political Polls | POLL - Trump would have had 7 point lead over Biden

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I'd like to say I have been on the same hopium as CFord, so if folks want to spread the hate on a Harris loss, then feel free to do so here as well.

That said, I stated months ago that I thought this would be closer to an Obama win than a Biden win. And I still stand by that.

Abortion was the dog catching the car. And Jan 6 was a total game changer. Women are furious and white men, namely Republican white mean, are no longer as reliable a block as Republicans used to be able to count on. Same can be said of seniors....they are petrified of Project 2025 and safety net cuts, and also have an awful view of Jan 6.

Therein lies the problem.....women are in every state. So are white men. So are seniors. In large numbers. I would bet that even the red states that are reliably Republican and Trump wins them on Tuesday, Trumps margin shrinks there from 2020 (maybe some exceptions where voter suppression is super high).

The Republican Party has become another Trump business. Good enough for a while with the smoke and mirrors act, eventually goes down because it was all a fraud and/or morally awful......next comes the lawsuits, infighting and bullshit. And then ultimately bankrupt. The only problem for the party is that Trump could just move on to another grift and they are picking up pieces for a long time, trying to re-establish as a national brand with no leadership since they farmed it all out to this moron and his cronies and family.

Although I guess this time, Trump can't move on to another grift......if he stays in this country,

Which he won't, when he loses. He'll be out of the country spinning a story about how he's not safe from the Thug Democrats in this country and he's best way to fight is from Hungary or UAE, etc. so make sure the rubes donate for the fight! It won't be Russia because he'll be of no use to Putin anymore at that point.

She's going to win and most likely on Tuesday....by a good margin.
 
BurtoniumAD said:
I'd like to say I have been on the same hopium as CFord, so if folks want to spread the hate on a Harris loss, then feel free to do so here as well.

That said, I stated months ago that I thought this would be closer to an Obama win than a Biden win. And I still stand by that.

Abortion was the dog catching the car. And Jan 6 was a total game changer. Women are furious and white men, namely Republican white mean, are no longer as reliable a block as Republicans used to be able to count on. Same can be said of seniors....they are petrified of Project 2025 and safety net cuts, and also have an awful view of Jan 6.

Therein lies the problem.....women are in every state. So are white men. So are seniors. In large numbers. I would bet that even the red states that are reliably Republican and Trump wins them on Tuesday, Trumps margin shrinks there from 2020 (maybe some exceptions where voter suppression is super high).

The Republican Party has become another Trump business. Good enough for a while with the smoke and mirrors act, eventually goes down because it was all a fraud and/or morally awful......next comes the lawsuits, infighting and bullshit. And then ultimately bankrupt. The only problem for the party is that Trump could just move on to another grift and they are picking up pieces for a long time, trying to re-establish as a national brand with no leadership since they farmed it all out to this moron and his cronies and family.

Although I guess this time, Trump can't move on to another grift......if he stays in this country,

Which he won't, when he loses. He'll be out of the country spinning a story about how he's not safe from the Thug Democrats in this country and he's best way to fight is from Hungary or UAE, etc. so make sure the rubes donate for the fight! It won't be Russia because he'll be of no use to Putin anymore at that point.

She's going to win and most likely on Tuesday....by a good margin.
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Totally agree with every word of this!

And regarding your first sentence, it ain't the MAGA trolls that worry me if Harris loses. They would be the absolute literal least of my concern. I'd be wayyyyyy more afraid of @SnoopRob , @rodoheel , @HeelingAg , and others on our team!
 
The hate for Nate Silver is pretty stupid. The guy takes polls and basically aggregates them. When he says Trump has a 55% chance to win, that’s like saying anyone can win. Why would he say that? Maybe because every poll has it a 1-2 point race. He’s not providing any insight.
 
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