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2024 Pre-Election Political Polls | POLL - Trump would have had 7 point lead over Biden

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gtyellowjacket said:
It's possible that they're being manipulated with the hope of dampening Democratic turnout but overseas markets are showing the same thing. Are these shadowy overseas sources really hoping to influence the American electorate by betting on some Irish bookie site?
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Or they all think polls are legit and legit polls never changed their processes and Trump still has this silent or lying 4%

Because they don't know red wave polls
 
Paine said:
I’d think the overseas bettors are following the lead of Americans who they assume have more knowledge of the political system than they do.

If Americans are betting that Trump will win, why wouldn’t bettors around the world assume the same?
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That sounds like a little bit of hopium to me. Its the US presidential election. There are enough people following it to provide the accuracy.

And there's money to be made. If those markets were manipulated, a bettor would be getting some very good odds to bet for Harris.
 
gtyellowjacket said:
Well it seems like one of us is wearing a tin foil hat. Guess we'll find out in a couple of weeks who the crazy one is.
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The paying for votes is true. The algorithm manipulation is true. 4 accounts by one individual spamming bets on Polymarket is true. The deluge of right-wing polls is true. But sure, tin foil hat stuff ...

Stupidity in the face of facts sure is a bad look but it's definitely in line with the rest of your beliefs and behaviors. Nobody wears it better.
 
CallMeTyler said:
The paying for votes is true. The algorithm manipulation is true. 4 accounts by one individual spamming bets on Polymarket is true. The deluge of right-wing polls is true. But sure, tin foil hat stuff ...

Stupidity in the face of facts sure is a bad look but it's definitely in line with the rest of your beliefs and behaviors. Nobody wears it better.
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The other markets providing some similar information is true. The accuracy of those betting markets in the past is true.

Stupidity in the face of facts sure is a bad look but it's definitely in line with the rest of your beliefs and behaviors. Nobody wears it better.
 
gtyellowjacket said:
The other markets providing some similar information is true. The accuracy of those betting markets in the past is true.

Stupidity in the face of facts sure is a bad look but it's definitely in line with the rest of your beliefs and behaviors. Nobody wears it better.
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"In terms of the 2024 election odds, they, like the polls, are effectively predicting a toss up, which only underscores that we are in for a close election."

Not even your own quoted article aligns with your position on this election 🤡
 
gtyellowjacket said:
It's possible that they're being manipulated with the hope of dampening Democratic turnout but overseas markets are showing the same thing. Are these shadowy overseas sources really hoping to influence the American electorate by betting on some Irish bookie site?
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You are aware that China and Russia are the US's enemy even if not Trump's ,aren't you? They have both proven that they will do anything to disrupt our country. Are you really so gullible as to think the Irish would actually give a shit where the money comes from? Are you really this gullible or do you just play that role here?
 
theel4life said:
Someone give me some data or info that says Kamala is going to win. Boost my confidence.
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You’re not going to find any data that says she’ll win. It’s a pure toss up.

The only comfort you can have right now is that there is some kind of hidden support for Harris not showing up on polling. Otherwise, it comes down to turnout.
 
theel4life said:
I appreciate you guys optimism but right not the trends don’t look good.
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Those trends being what?

www.nbcnews.com

Early Voting and Mail-In Ballots by State 2024 Results

View the results for mail-in and early in-person ballots in your state for the 2024 general elections
www.nbcnews.com www.nbcnews.com

And keep in mind these are only early vote totals, predominantly cast by retirees during workday hours (excluding mail-in voting). I'm just not seeing a need for angst, really under any circumstance.
 
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theel4life said:
Someone give me some data or info that says Kamala is going to win. Boost my confidence.
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it's not data but he is a savvy politico

www.lipstickalley.com

'This sucker is baked': Bush adviser explains why he's certain Harris has already won

'This sucker is baked': Bush adviser explains why he's certain Harris has already won A core adviser to George W. Bush and Sen. John McCain made an election prediction Friday which he said was almost certain: “This sucker is baked.” Mark McKinnon, who served as the chief media adviser for...
www.lipstickalley.com www.lipstickalley.com
 
theel4life said:
I appreciate you guys optimism but right not the trends don’t look good.
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Ok one post fine. You're at like 3 or 4 just wanting someone to coddle you

Nothing has changed. He could win. She could win. But nothing has changed. Turnout is setting records.

So stop asking for people to give you a reassuring perspective because you clearly just want to wallow in fear and pity today
 
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theel, no bs'ing, IMO it's time to log-off and go outside and be/communicate with people you appreciate. If neither is an option, hell you can DM me to process the doom spiral - genuinely - or maybe better, start a "Caught in the DOOM-SPIRAL" thread. I'd probably participate as a net pessimist who has some pretty extreme views of how liberals should prepare for the coming years.

I can't speak for everyone, and I recognize some folks won't appreciate me saying, but you have a history of spamming this board when you're in your feels, and it hurts my experience to wade through it all. I think if you cordon the spirals a bit you might get more layered attention/discussion, in more appropriate places.
 
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