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2024 Presidential Election | ELECTION DAY 2024
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Every Democrat since the 1960s has gotten 80%. If that is all she does, she’s in trouble. Hopefully, it will be closer to 85%-90%
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It’s a “Business Decision”.
Forget his bat shit crazy maga supporters. Throw out dementia, interment camps, felonies, impeachments, awaiting other trials and his tribulations… it’s simply a business decision. So say his seemingly “normal”, college-educated voters.
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Forget his bat shit crazy maga supporters. Throw out dementia, interment camps, felonies, impeachments, awaiting other trials and his tribulations… it’s simply a business decision. So say his seemingly “normal”, college-educated voters.
Rachel Maddow calls the bluff of Trump supporters who claim to be making a 'business decision' — MSNBC
Rachel Maddow looks at some of the reasons why a Trump supporter might claim to look past his many shortcomings because they consider their vote a business decision, and why those business decision reasons actually favor supporting Kamala Harris. This is an excerpted portion of the October 14...
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I love these arguments from right-wingers defending the Electoral College and other things - like the US Senate and gerrymandering - that give grossly disproportionate power to rural areas. If over half of all Americans live in those yellow areas, then should that majority not be able to control the government? Why should less-populated areas be able to dominate the government and dictate rural policy and prejudices onto the more populated urban areas? And I'm well aware of the arguments for federalism, "states rights", etc. But if you've got a system where a shrinking minority of the electorate can sweep to control of all branches of the government and impose their will on the urban majority, then you're going to have problems - big problems.
What she is struggling to get are back men. They are just as Misogynistic as white or any other men.
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According to Pew Research, Hillary got 81% of black men, 65% of Hispanic men, 32% of white men.
Curious where Harris stands and will stand with each of those.
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Depends on who is doing the polling. But Pew Research and some other recent polling suggests the biggest issue for Black male voters and Hispanic voters is lack of motivation to show up and vote compared to white and female voters.
Trump is working to turn out low propensity white male voters and media says go him of course. Harris seeks to improve turnout of low propensity Black male voters and it is practically a scandal for some reason.
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85% of people surveyed want to see the full transcript of Kamala's 60 Minutes interview. This comes as another (non)shocking poll shows that the trust in mainstream media has never been lower.
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The Hill has turned into garbage (it was never great). I blocked Google from recommending it to me.
But 85%? Yeah that means they are sampling like 75% trumpers
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I truly, deeply hope Pubs keep harping on this for the next three weeks because it's the stupidest nothingburger the Party of Extraordinary Stupidity has come up with yet. Please, please, PLEASE keep complaining that one of the most respected news shows in the country, which followed all of its ordinary editorial protocols, and which Trump ducked like the scared dog he is, somehow put its finger on the scale for Kamala. If I were the Pubs, I'd throw every dime left in my coffers at that argument.
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Hopefully HY2012 will be around soon for a rebuttalIt’s a “Business Decision”.
Forget his bat shit crazy maga supporters. Throw out dementia, interment camps, felonies, impeachments, awaiting other trials and his tribulations… it’s simply a business decision. So say his seemingly “normal”, college-educated voters.
Rachel Maddow calls the bluff of Trump supporters who claim to be making a 'business decision' — MSNBC
Rachel Maddow looks at some of the reasons why a Trump supporter might claim to look past his many shortcomings because they consider their vote a business decision, and why those business decision reasons actually favor supporting Kamala Harris. This is an excerpted portion of the October 14...
If Kamala can only get 80% of the black vote due to black men, she will have been a disaster candidate. I expect her ultimate number in the final exit polls to be around 90%.
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I believe in 2016 Trump got only 6% of the black vote (men and women), and in 2020 he got only 8%. I remain very skeptical of all these claims that minorities are switching to Trump in significant numbers. I agree that if Trump gets more than 10% of the black vote it will indeed be very surprising.
Part of the problem with these discussions is that voters don’t identify their race in ballots, so we have to rely on exit polls - which have some of the same problems as regular polls. So there is an always a bit of +|- when discussing the numbers — especially when dealing with numbers as high as 90%.
That said, here is a pretty good site for historical exit poll data. Exit Polls | Roper Center for Public Opinion Research
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Here’s the obvious rebuttal. She said if inflation is what’s important to you, that breaks for Harris. This is somehow based on hypothetical inflation for each candidate in their upcoming administration, based on some subset of anonymous economists?
The obvious rebuttal is that we already have inflation data from when these two candidates were in power. And the data on inflation looks horrible for Biden/Harris.
There is a reason the electorate trusts Trump more than Harris on the economy.
If/when Harris wins, it will be because of Roe being overturned, people having Trump fatigue, and other things that move the needle in her favor. It will not be because the average voter thinks voting for Harris is the better “business decision”
Rachel’s whole show last night was on the “business decision” argument. Here is 8 minutes of it.
We also have data on how many novel viruses created worldwide pandemics when these two candidates were in power. One started under Trump and none started under Biden. I mean that's just as fair as saying inflation under Biden is his fault because it occurred while he was POTUS. So in your childlike logic, a vote for Trump is a vote for global pandemics.