2024 Presidential Election | ELECTION DAY 2024

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Is that a good thing?

Also, remember what Plouffe said -- they've been testing to see who is well suited to reach which audience. ICP hits a group that is really, really, really hard to reach by other means, except possible ads on Faygo soda whatever the fuck that is.

It's not a coincidence that the Daily Show is doing this piece right now. I'd say it's highly likely that the Harris campaign is out there steering stories to news outlets, including the Daily Show. Note that the piece barely poked fun at the juggalos, which is a change from the usual tone of a TDS piece on them. Mostly it highlighted that the juggalos, though disaffected from politics, are ideologically progressive.
 
This does not make me feel better at all, personally. Carville is a dinosaur.
Carville is still sharp and he's still very well-connected. Granted, most of the points he made were boilerplate and not any kind of inside info, but they were good points. He's definitely not one to sugarcoat things, if he wasn't feeling confident I don't think he'd come out that strongly. He might still say something like "well, it's tight but we're still in this thing" or something along those lines, but he wouldn't have written what he did. Of course he could still be wrong, but a guy who is known for calling it like he sees it coming out that strongly does make me feel better...
 
Carville is still sharp and he's still very well-connected. Granted, most of the points he made were boilerplate and not any kind of inside info, but they were good points. He's definitely not one to sugarcoat things, if he wasn't feeling confident I don't think he'd come out that strongly. He might still say something like "well, it's tight but we're still in this thing" or something along those lines, but he wouldn't have written what he did. Of course he could still be wrong, but a guy who is known for calling it like he sees it coming out that strongly does make me feel better...
I don't doubt that he's confident, I just don't think that his confidence means anything or should independently inspire confidence in anyone else.
 

"Listen, I want to say something else really quickly. If you are believing the panic polls, stop it. Stop it. Donald Trump has done two strategic imperatives for the rest of this campaign. Number one, is to flood the zone with shit and panic Democrats. That's why you're seeing dozens of these polls from brand new pollsters and low quality pollsters and Rasmussen a thousand times over to skew the poll aggregate numbers.

Donald Trump is in real trouble across the country. He has very few bright spots on the map and a lot of very, very red alert spots. The disinformation machine that is feeding that panic narrative is making my Democratic friends lose their goddamn minds. Fucking stop it. The best piece of advice I've ever gotten in my personal life was don't drink the poison. Don't drink the poison.

When bad people want you to drink the poison, don't drink the poison. Don't drink the poison. I wrote about this the other day on Substack. The idea that you're going to get panicked and you're going to run for the hills because some polls don't look like you want them to look, grow up. Toughen up.

We can win this thing, and we can win it big. Get out there and vote. Vote early. That helps the Harris campaign. The sooner you vote, the better. And this disinformation stuff, the more you see the crazy, the more you need to dismiss the crazy, the more you need to filter it aggressively."
 

"Listen, I want to say something else really quickly. If you are believing the panic polls, stop it. Stop it. Donald Trump has done two strategic imperatives for the rest of this campaign. Number one, is to flood the zone with shit and panic Democrats. That's why you're seeing dozens of these polls from brand new pollsters and low quality pollsters and Rasmussen a thousand times over to skew the poll aggregate numbers.

Donald Trump is in real trouble across the country. He has very few bright spots on the map and a lot of very, very red alert spots. The disinformation machine that is feeding that panic narrative is making my Democratic friends lose their goddamn minds. Fucking stop it. The best piece of advice I've ever gotten in my personal life was don't drink the poison. Don't drink the poison.

When bad people want you to drink the poison, don't drink the poison. Don't drink the poison. I wrote about this the other day on Substack. The idea that you're going to get panicked and you're going to run for the hills because some polls don't look like you want them to look, grow up. Toughen up.

We can win this thing, and we can win it big. Get out there and vote. Vote early. That helps the Harris campaign. The sooner you vote, the better. And this disinformation stuff, the more you see the crazy, the more you need to dismiss the crazy, the more you need to filter it aggressively."
It's a good thing for Dems if Trump is doing this. One of the only reasons he won in 2016 is that few thought he would win.
 
A final appeal to conservatives

Trump is a genuinely post-constitutional candidate and would, of course, be a post-constitutional president. His infamous disregard for the law and our system of justice has been a corrosive and vile aspect in a portfolio of corrosive and vile actions and beliefs he mainstreamed into American political culture.

There is no conceivable excuse at this point for anyone calling themselves a conservative, much less of the constitutional variety, to treat these egregious and repulsive statements as allowable. You are not required as a conservative to embrace the promises of autocracy. You are called to reject them wholly.

The imaginary fear of some hypothetical scourge is no longer a pretense you can hold up with any degree of credibility. There is no sweeping threat of Marxism outside of a handful of academic weirdos. There is no genuine threat to the fabric of American culture because a few people cross-dress. America’s role in the world, economic liberty, Constitutional order, and the rule of law are the enablers of freedom.

Trump is the sworn enemy of all those things.

Donald Trump isn’t the savior of conservatism. He is his executioner.

He is not simply flawed but dangerously so, and the handful of you who continue the pretense of supporting Trump for his “policies” recognize that lie at this point.

When you hear the stirrings around Trump of the people eagerly salivating to see his vision of martial law, extra-constitutional trials, arrests, and executions made manifest, how does that fit in your vision of conservatism?

Even if you believe that his rhetoric is just for show, tell me how moving the Overton window on using the power of the state to arrest political opponents and the rest of his post-Constittual madness can be wedged into Kirk and Burke and Buckley.

 

The Sad, Pathetic Spectacle of John Kelly’s Critics​


"There is something deeply pernicious to this routine. These people want you to forget the cumulative weight of the accusations against Trump, especially when those accusations are coming from his own former employees—many of them high-ranking military officers. They’re doing so not because they don’t believe the accusations but because they know how harmful they could be.

You know how we know this? Because the claims of Kelly and others are backed up by what we’ve seen with our own eyes over the last nine years.

Are we supposed to be skeptical that Trump called soldiers “suckers” and “losers” when he said as much out loud about John McCain?

Are we supposed to be skeptical that he praised Hitler’s generals when he admires dictators, dined with white supremacist Nick Fuentes, calls people “vermin,” and talks about immigrants “poisoning the blood” of America?

Are we supposed to believe he bears no responsibility for January 6th when we all watched him summon a mob and sic it on the Capitol?

Are we supposed to believe that this is all about some personal tiff between Kelly and Trump when so many others have so many similar accounts?

  • When Trump’s former vice president, Mike Pence, told us that “the American people deserve to know that President Trump asked me to put him over my oath to the Constitution” on January 6th?
  • When James Mattis said Trump’s “use of the presidency to destroy trust in our election and to poison our respect for fellow citizens has been enabled by pseudo political leaders whose names will live in infamy as profiles in cowardice”?
  • When Mark Esper said Trump was “unfit for office,” and put “himself before country”?
  • When John Bolton warned that “this will be a retribution presidency”?
  • When Ty Cobb said Trump’s “conduct and mere existence have hastened the demise of democracy and of the nation”?
  • When Mark Milley called Trump “fascist to the core” and “the most dangerous person to this country”?
  • When Bill Barr said Trump “shouldn’t be anywhere near the Oval Office”?
I have another idea: Why don’t we accept the obvious truth that is staring us in the face? Trump is dangerous and unfit and all the responsible people who served in his last term have told us as much."
 
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