2024 Presidential Election | ELECTION DAY 2024

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The Sad, Pathetic Spectacle of John Kelly’s Critics

Trump’s sycophants want us to trust them over our own eyes and ears.
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The Sad, Pathetic Spectacle of John Kelly’s Critics​


"There is something deeply pernicious to this routine. These people want you to forget the cumulative weight of the accusations against Trump, especially when those accusations are coming from his own former employees—many of them high-ranking military officers. They’re doing so not because they don’t believe the accusations but because they know how harmful they could be.

You know how we know this? Because the claims of Kelly and others are backed up by what we’ve seen with our own eyes over the last nine years.

Are we supposed to be skeptical that Trump called soldiers “suckers” and “losers” when he said as much out loud about John McCain?

Are we supposed to be skeptical that he praised Hitler’s generals when he admires dictators, dined with white supremacist Nick Fuentes, calls people “vermin,” and talks about immigrants “poisoning the blood” of America?

Are we supposed to believe he bears no responsibility for January 6th when we all watched him summon a mob and sic it on the Capitol?

Are we supposed to believe that this is all about some personal tiff between Kelly and Trump when so many others have so many similar accounts?

  • When Trump’s former vice president, Mike Pence, told us that “the American people deserve to know that President Trump asked me to put him over my oath to the Constitution” on January 6th?
  • When James Mattis said Trump’s “use of the presidency to destroy trust in our election and to poison our respect for fellow citizens has been enabled by pseudo political leaders whose names will live in infamy as profiles in cowardice”?
  • When Mark Esper said Trump was “unfit for office,” and put “himself before country”?
  • When John Bolton warned that “this will be a retribution presidency”?
  • When Ty Cobb said Trump’s “conduct and mere existence have hastened the demise of democracy and of the nation”?
  • When Mark Milley called Trump “fascist to the core” and “the most dangerous person to this country”?
  • When Bill Barr said Trump “shouldn’t be anywhere near the Oval Office”?
I have another idea: Why don’t we accept the obvious truth that is staring us in the face? Trump is dangerous and unfit and all the responsible people who served in his last term have told us as much."
 
CFordUNC said:
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How the hell is this even close?

It boggles the mind. But it's not unexplainable.
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Republicans want unending Trumpism. The rest of us don’t.​

A major reason that Harris isn’t “running away with this” is because an overwhelming majority of white voters don’t find Trump’s malicious nature and fundamental unfitness disqualifying.

An Emerson College poll from last Friday has Harris with a slim one-point lead over Trump, but the demographic breakdown is telling: Harris leads with Hispanic voters 61 to 35 percent and Black voters 81 to 12 percent. However, Trump carries white voters 60 to 38 percent. For context, Mike Dukakis had better numbers among white voters against George H.W. Bush in 1988. (The white electorate was smaller then.)

Obama’s white voter support dropped from 43 percent against McCain to 39 percent against Romney. If Trump lost comparable ground among white voters, this nightmare would be over.

This goes beyond rigid partisanship — Republicans just flat out love Trump. Consider that his primary challengers earlier this year were major players, not the Republican equivalents to Dean Phillips or Marianne Williamson. And those challengers had fully embraced almost all the MAGA positions except perhaps for Trump’s obsession with the big lie.

Still, Trump, while under criminal indictment, soundly defeated Nikki Haley and Ron DeSantis, once lauded as Trump without the baggage. In fact, primary exit polls in New Hampshire and South Carolina revealed that GOP voters actually like his baggage. The majority claimed Trump “shared their values,” and it wasn’t as if they were uninformed about his criminal charges. They just didn’t care, with an overwhelming majority in both states saying they still considered him fit to serve even if convicted of a crime.

If Harris wins, it’s because just enough voters accept the rule of law and reality itself. That’s probably why we remain so nervous about the outcome. The election won’t merely determine the next president. It’ll define who we are as a nation."
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That's a lot of words just say "It's a cult."
 
Don't know how much. Biggest issues are life support and tolerating low gravity which is refining things we can already do and transporting a way in and out of Mars gravity well. Getting in and out is also something we know how to do. We just have to refine things to work at that distance. I have no idea how much it will cost and I don't even object on principle although there would be more to gain in the asteroid belt.
 
DougDaBroadcasta said:
Reading the Twittersphere at the moment, it feels like something big is coming.

And it wasn't the Hittler thing....
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No idea what it is, but it will certainly leak eventually. The credible sources seem to be shying away from it, but sounds like it could be a bombshell.
 
Milk and Cookies said:
The Taylor ice cream machines are like an Italian sports car -- when they are in peak working order they're amazing but without intense maintenance the hundreds of intricate parts quickly break down. And they're so complicated it requires a special maintenance contract with the manufacturer Taylor. Repairing a machine can take up to 4 hours. The menus are incredibly complicated. Etc. Etc.y
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My kids have had a rough week and my daughter really wanted a McDonalds cheeseburger tonight, so I relented. Sure ‘nuff, the shake machine was out of order 😂
 
Man, that better not be all that this supposed “bombshell” is because not only would that not end his campaign, it would make these dumb MAGA motherfuckers vote for him even harder. Granted, I guess you could say the same thing about the supposed N-word tape, too!

I guess the theory is that some supposed bombshell could be the straw that breaks the camel’s back for all of these mythical “””” undecided””” voters out there?
 
hedge said:
Even with pics, it will be dismissed by Maga as fake..
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Hell, I don’t know, fondling an underage girl might make him an even bigger hero in their eyes. I mean, we are talking about the guy who openly muses about fucking his daughter, and has done so ever since she was like 10 years old, and like 47% of the electorate are happy to vote for him, including and especially ones with daughters themselves.
 
nothing will make a difference for his frothing at the mouth lunatic base but video of him groping anyone let alone a minor won't go over well with literally everyone else, which is @ 60% of the electorate.
 
CFordUNC said:
Hell, I don’t know, fondling an underage girl might make him an even bigger hero in their eyes. I mean, we are talking about the guy who openly muses about fucking his daughter, and has done so ever since she was like 10 years old, and like 47% of the electorate are happy to vote for him, including and especially ones with daughters themselves.
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Maybe, but ask those around you about Roy Moore. A Dem won a Senate seat in AL in part because Roy Moore was diddling with young girls.

It also really, really neutralizes his "I'm your protector" argument. While that's not going to work on all that many women, it will work on some, especially older ones. But less so if the protector turns out to be a predator (which we know he is but this is better proof).
 
I’m just going to assume that these rumors, like literally every single one of them over the last nine years that was supposed to be THE ONE THAT TAKES DOWN TRUMP never actually materializes sort of like Beyoncé at the Democratic national convention, but if the Trump camp is squirm…

Leonardo Dicaprio Calvin Candie GIF
 
superrific said:
Maybe, but ask those around you about Roy Moore. A Dem won a Senate seat in AL in part because Roy Moore was diddling with young girls.

It also really, really neutralizes his "I'm your protector" argument. While that's not going to work on all that many women, it will work on some, especially older ones. But less so if the protector turns out to be a predator (which we know he is but this is better proof).
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Oh dang that is a great point about Roy Moore and Alabama. Great point.
 
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