I feel like if this was me, it'd definitely make me more likely to go vote.
Pennsylvania Residents Peppered With False Texts Claiming They Already Voted
In the final weeks of the presidential campaign, swing state voters are getting hit with mysterious texts.gizmodo.com
I take your contention to be that “this is a bad thing that could cost Harris the election” and my contention is “this is a dumb thing that ultimately won’t even be remembered a day from now, and isn’t going to be some impetus that prevents the Democrats from successfully closing what has already been a successful campaign, no matter how loudly MAGA Twitter screams and cries or how much Democratic Twitter hyperventilates with anxiety.”
Step away from the ledge, do some breathing exercises, and then return to this thread. Harping on Biden's comment is going to accomplish nothing. You've made your point. Some agree, and some disagree. But I think that most would agree that your concern over the comment has run its course.
To be more precise, my contention is that "this is a bad thing that reduces Harris's chances of winning the election, with no way to know by what amount."
I think I understand what you're intending but that statement is literally contradictory. By definition if Kamala was "never, ever, ever winning this election at any point in the first place" then we didn't lose it "because" of what Biden said.
Let's be clear. There is nothing wrong with what Biden said. Even as misconstrued, it's accurate. I absolutely do not believe that stifling the truth is the right thing to do. I do not believe that will cost any significant votes that will not be more than made up as Republicans continue to expose their blatant hypocrisy. We've rolled over enough accepting their lies instead of making them back them up. If people can't see the clear distinction and we lose over this, I just don't care. We'll deserve to go to hell. We're never going to be worth a damn catering to abject stupidity.
I don't believe Trump has disavowed the comment yet, no?
Quite the opposite, in fact. He doubled down on it during his Hannity interview.
All good, man. I think we are probably talking past one another at this point. I don’t think your viewpoint is invalid or anything- I just don’t happen to agree with it. But I know that we want the exact same thing as it pertains to this election, and that’s good enough for me.
I understand what you mean, and anyone who thinks what I'm advocating is "rolling over accepting their lies" or "stifling the truth" hasn't read my posts on this board or the old board for very long. It is certainly appropriate and important for Democrats to constantly attack the hypocrisy of sniveling turds like Vance and the entire conservative media ecosystem, in this and every other instance. But if you think politics in this country has ever not involved "catering to abject stupidity" then I have some beachfront property in Missouri to sell you. Because everyone of age gets a vote, the reality is that a huge proportion of the electorate is made up of idiots and people who are woefully uniformed. There's no way to ignore them or their votes. So anyone who wants to win an election of any kind has to take a pragmatic approach to wooing stupid, uninformed voters. We can wish all we want for a magical world where elections are decided only by the merits and policies of the candidates, but that world doesn't exist. Not in this country, not in any country. And we have to win elections in this world, not a hypothetical one.
Yeah, this not a bosides comparison despite media insinuations.
This ^. … and for those that have angst about Kamala not being ready/willing to voice how she would have presided differently than Biden, the ill made garbage comment is an opportunity. She has and can use this to demonstrate that she will communicate more effectively than the guy she has replaced on the ballot.
I was born in Truman's administration. I'm scarcely naive. It's that fact that helps me realize that always applying a general principle can easily lead to failure in specific cases. I think you're looking at two in a bush here and ignoring the thorns. You just don't give up important things for maybes.
