Bigs23
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I wouldn’t agree with it, but I wouldn’t be overly critical.And if Bubba did, would you criticize him for firing him?
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I wouldn’t agree with it, but I wouldn’t be overly critical.And if Bubba did, would you criticize him for firing him?
Eddie took a much more typical route to becoming a HC after leaving Carolina and was merely a good, not great, coach.Before Roy, there was Eddie Fogler, another guy with no experience and look what he did.
It seems like it's only the players who you are willing to criticize then.I wouldn’t agree with it, but I wouldn’t be overly critical.
Where have I done that?It seems like it's only the players who you are willing to criticize then.
In this very thread. We had a back-and-forth on it earlier.Where have I done that?
Those wonky floor boards. The dreams they have ruined over the years. Seriously, wasn't the old Boston Garden famous for its wonky floor boards? I thought I remember Bird saying something like, "the great thing about playing at home is I know where the dead spots are."Yes, that is true.
And in today's day & age, you have way more pressure to produce or move on. You obviously can't give every coach five years.
But Hubert also ended K's career and was one wonky floor board from winning the national championship. So, he's shown some of the same potential that Dean showed in his first 3.5 years (as opposed to say a Carl Torbush or Matt Doherty, both of whom made it abundantly clear that 3 years was enough).
But I do think it is worth pointing out that you don't need to be an established coach to succeed at UNC. Both Roy and Dean had great success as a pressure cooker head coach based solely on the experience they gained as a UNC assistant coach.
I didn’t criticize any particular player. I said that now that they are getting paid they should take their fair share of responsibility when things go wrong.In this very thread. We had a back-and-forth on it earlier.
Larry Fedora wasn't a bad hire when chosen by Bubba and he was pretty successful here until all of his QBs fell short at the same time with little way to get a decent quick replacement. It's an interesting thought experiment to ponder if Fedora would have been ultimately successful had the transfer portal been in place by 2017 or 2018 and he could have gotten a much better QB.Like Larry Fedora?
Mac TTP analysis showed promoting an assistant from a successful program had the highest hit rate in cfb (although all possible routes are basically a crapshoot).
Hiring an up and comer could work. But it is no better odds than hiring an assistant.
You made that comment after I told you to stop criticizing the players.I didn’t criticize any particular player. I said that now that they are getting paid they should take their fair share of responsibility when things go wrong.
The coaches make mistakes as do the players.
My recollection was that he was pretty bad, but that's a highly unreliable recollection. I was using him to make the point that even at UNC "promote the top assistant" doesn't work all the time.Eddie took a much more typical route to becoming a HC after leaving Carolina and was merely a good, not great, coach.
He spent 3 years at Wichita State, where he had reasonably good success, before moving up to Vandy (a pretty terrible job despite being in the SEC), where he had success far beyond their normal standard, and only then got the job at South Carolina, where he was a decent but not great coach.
His HC story is much more similar to the standard "work your way up the ladder" story than a "successful at the highest levels of CBB right out of the gate" story.
Do you actually read what others type or are you just a bot regurgitating pre-planned talking points?Name the bad coaches who have done all of the following:
- Coached in a national title game
- Won the regular season title in a P5 conference
- Been COY of a P5 conference
- Won 70% of their games
- Won 71% of their conference games
Ah, ok, my bad for misunderstanding what you were going for.My recollection was that he was pretty bad, but that's a highly unreliable recollection. I was using him to make the point that even at UNC "promote the top assistant" doesn't work all the time.
Trigger warning for those who don't want to relive this moment.Remind me again what happened with the floor board? I thought it was determined that it wasn't wonky after all, but my memory for those things isn't great anymore. Not that it's particularly relevant.
They absolutely need to win this game. Hopefully they come out with intensity and purpose. JWash and VAL need to keep playing well.
Since you don't care about character, K in Durham was a joke and on the verge of being fired at about this stage of his career. Of course, he didn't nearly have the resume at this point Hubert did . There's something to be said about a little patience.Never said it would make everything all better, but you can't stay with a coach if things aren't getting better and you aren't having good seasons consistently.
Pointing out that the players need to play better is pretty much the lightest possible criticism.You made that comment after I told you to stop criticizing the players.
A healthy Mondo probably brings UNC that title, but it’s not a sure thing.Points 1 and 2 both seem dubious. We were losing by a point, right? Was Mondo guaranteed to score if he didn't turn the ankle? Were we guaranteed to get a stop on the next possession. The floorboard might have caused the twist but that's not fully clear from the video.
I thought the bigger issue was that Mondo had been playing injured all game, and after halftime his ankle tightened up and he lost a lot of mobility, making him ineffective in the second half.
That team with a healthy Mondo, a non-concussed Manek, and a Caleb Love who didn’t badly turn his ankle in the second half probably gets it done.A healthy Mondo probably brings UNC that title, but it’s not a sure thing.