EXIT POLLS & TURNOUT DATA - The Red Shift

[aGDevil2k]

So true

 

[Willy]

So - WTF happened in Iowa? How was Selzer so far off?

 

[CallMeTyler]

So - WTF happened in Iowa? How was Selzer so far off?

It’s pretty clear a lot of people lied to pollsters. There’s a serious love for Trump that many voters don’t like to admit publicly but are willing to cast votes for him privately.

 

[lightbluenc]

Lots and lots of Republicans lied about voting for her. Lots. Hell I’d imagine most of the Rs that endorsed her lied.

 

[Bigs23]

It appears that the radical “red wave” polls were spot on.

 

[aGDevil2k]

Oh yeah this was a big red wave

Now the county will find out. Our credit rating should be reduced soon

 

[mpaer]

So - WTF happened in Iowa? How was Selzer so far off?

That was quite a tease wasn't it

 

[Mundial]

Oh yeah this was a big red wave

Now the county will find out. Our credit rating should be reduced soon

As I said on another thread a while ago the Democratic Party has not in the past and does not currently do a good job reaching out to Latinos or focusing on issues that matter to Latinos when they are in office. This failure has left this group open to predatory tactics by the republicans (Bush actually seemed to want to accomplish some meaningful goals with respect to Latinos).

 

[nycfan]

 

[TitanNC]

I saw on a CNN segment that Trump carried 21% of AA men in N.C.

 

[CallMeTyler]

And Democrats will be wondering how they can launch Michelle Obama for POTUS in 4 years ...

 

[lightbluenc]

So - WTF happened in Iowa? How was Selzer so far off?

People lie about who they're voting for. Tons of R's just keep it a secret or tell you what you want to hear. They are insanely good at this.

 

[finesse]

People lie about who they're voting for. Tons of R's just keep it a secret or tell you what you want to hear. They are insanely good at this.

I couldn't have been more completely wrong about how the secret vote would go.

 

[Willy]

People lie about who they're voting for. Tons of R's just keep it a secret or tell you what you want to hear. They are insanely good at this.

If that's the case - and it very well could be - then polls are completely useless. Polls only work if those polled are honest.

 

[finesse]

Looks like lying is becoming the new American way.

 

[aGDevil2k]

Polls weren't really that wrong it seems.

Nate silver (ugh) was right that the swings would largely go all together.

But honestly what is the Democrat party now? It's gotta change.

 

[lightbluenc]

Polls weren't really that wrong it seems.

Nate silver (ugh) was right that the swings would largely go all together.

But honestly what is the Democrat party now? It's gotta change.

I don't think we'll see a woman come out of the Dem primary anytime soon unfortunately.

 

[Willy]

Polls weren't really that wrong it seems.

Nate silver (ugh) was right that the swings would largely go all together.

But honestly what is the Democrat party now? It's gotta change.

I guess most were within the MOE. Iowa was not, which I feel is what really kickstarted the Hopium here.

 

[Healing]

I don't think we'll see a woman come out of the Dem primary anytime soon unfortunately.

Oh, I think we might have a variety of Dem candidates. The Putins of the world always need wilting competition, and what’s better than one’s that occasionally stir the soul of small and defined groups? What I don’t think we’ll see is a free and fair election for the remainder of most of our lives (to be clear, I think this was a legit election).

 

[superrific]

Polls weren't really that wrong it seems.

Nate silver (ugh) was right that the swings would largely go all together.

But honestly what is the Democrat party now? It's gotta change.

The polls were wrong.

There is no change possible. Trump has promised everything. You can't compete with that. You just have to wait until it all falls apart and then try to pick up the pieces, if we're ever allowed.