EXIT POLLS & TURNOUT DATA - The Red Shift

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gregh1 said:
Missouri approved weed, sports-betting, abortion access and has increased min wage twice - sounds progressive yeah? But it was Trump 58-40. I think the Venn diagrams all point to pocket-book (and anti-incumbent) as the primary factor.
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Racism -- especially in Missouri -- is the explanation. But I guess people want to ignore everything that happened during the campaign and American politics generally.

Look at the messaging that most resonated with Trump's people: the US is being invaded by migrants. Dark skinned migrants. That was the single unifying theme of the entire thing. That, and gender roles. Childless cat ladies. Men in women's sports. Trad wives. So on and so forth.

Trump wasn't even talking about tariffs so much until he got shot, at which point he decided that only consequential presidents get shot, and then faced with the fact that McKinley was shot, he made up a story in which McKinley was one of our greatest presidents.

It appears we're back to 2017. Let's go out into Trump country and find these people who voted for him and try to understand how their economic worries led them to embrace a man claiming that Venezuelan gangs were taking over towns all over the Midwest. Or we could just believe them when they showed us who they were.

More than any other election ever, the winning side showed everyone exactly who they were. Believe them. I really don't understand why this even needs to be said. It is so obvious.
 
HintonJamesHeel said:
If the Democrats were open to people that were more pro-life (not saying that they have to change high level but just understand some are pro-life) then the overwhelming majority at my church would be all democrats. Now I go to a huge church in Wake County so I understand that’s Democrats area anyway.
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Yeah, that's what my wife said about her old church prior to 2016. Then she saw how not true that was. How many people were really motivated by hatred in politics. Not necessarily in daily life, but in politics.

If your congregation is evangelical, then it would not be full of Democrats regardless of abortion. You'd like to think that, as would everyone not BSC who goes to evangelical churches, but the stats don't lie. 90%+ of evangelicals vote Trump.
 
HeelYeah2012 said:
Joke or serious?
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Obviously a joke based on everything I’ve said about why I think Democrats lost the election.

Democracies across the world had their incumbent party either lose power or lose seats. I think it’s obvious that such a global phenomenon can only be caused by other global factors: the decline of neoliberalism and the American world order + inflation pressure post Covid.

I linked to Sheinbaum’s Wikipedia page because Morena was one of the few ruling parties that did not lose power. They didn’t stay in power by catering to the right wingers in Mexico. They stayed in power because they passed robust social safety legislation under AMLO and Sheinbaum was trusted by Mexicans to continue this economic process.
 
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