EXIT POLLS & TURNOUT DATA - The Red Shift

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Whomst among us hasn’t voted for a guy whose campaign promise was to “let Bibi do whatever the hell he wants” as it pertains to Gaza/Palestinians, and whose first act as president – elect is to appoint an ambassador to Israel who says that Palestine isn’t a real thing!? Shocker! The guy who told you his goal it to build a Trump Tower on the Gaza Strip maaaaaaay not have had the best interests of the Arabs in mind!

I’m getting perverse pleasure out of all of these people who are starting to see the light juuuuuuuust a hair too late. Leopards, faces, fucking around, finding out, things of that general nature.
 
nycfan said:


“… Trump won Dearborn, where more than half the population is of Middle Eastern or North African descent, by capturing 42 percent of votes to Harris’s 36 percent; the Green Party’s Jill Stein also took a substantial 18 percent of the vote in the city. In neighborhoods within the city where Arab Americans are the majority, such as eastern Dearborn, Harris performed even worse.

For example, in 2020, Biden beat Trump in eastern Dearborn by nearly 10,000 votes. On Election Day this year, the Detroit Free Press reports that Trump defeated Harris in eastern Dearborn by nearly 3,700 votes, accumulating 45 percent of the vote in 2024 after receiving only 18 percent in 2020 resulting in a 27 percent swing toward Trump that demonstrates how the Democrats’ refusal to restrain Israel as it destroyed Gaza likely pushed Arab Americans to the right.

Election results in the state came down to many factors—but a crucial one was who could make the biggest inroads with the Arab American community. The Democrats’ failure is clearest in Michigan’s 12th Congressional District, which includes Dearborn and Detroit and is represented by Palestinian American Rep. Rashida Tlaib. Preliminary results indicate that she won her reelection bid by nearly 161,000 votes against Republican challenger James Hooper—more than double Trump’s entire statewide margin. …”
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I hope those people feel the full weight of their protest vote while Israel is wiping Palestine off the face of the earth and the Trump administration is cheering them on. Those dumb fucks basically voted for the genocide of their own people. And I hope Rashida Tlaib feels the greatest remorse of them all for her refusal to endorse Kamala. Fuck her.
 
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WaynetheDrain said:
I hope those people feel the full weight of their protest vote while Israel is wiping Palestine off the face of the earth and the Trump administration is cheering them on. Those dumb fucks basically voted for the genocide of their own people. And I hope Rashida Tlaib feels the greatest remorse of them all for her refusal to endorse Kamala. Fuck her.
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I posted this very xtweet on the "Trump voters buyers' remorse" thread the other day:



It's astounding no one in Dearborn-ish seemingly bothered to think this through, when even though before the election, Trump told Netanyahu on a call "do what you have to do in Gaza" and Mike Huckabee, now the newly-appointed Amb to Israel as of Jan 20, is on record as saying there's "no such thing as Palestine" :LOL:

Way to think it through, folks - enjoy the fruits of your misplaced anger.

Inshallah habib....inshallah...
 
korgguy1971 said:
I posted this very xtweet on the "Trump voters buyers' remorse" thread the other day:



It's astounding no one in Dearborn-ish seemingly bothered to think this through, when even though before the election, Trump told Netanyahu on a call "do what you have to do in Gaza" and Mike Huckabee, now the newly-appointed Amb to Israel as of Jan 20, is on record as saying there's "no such thing as Palestine" :LOL:

Way to think it through, folks - enjoy the fruits of your misplaced anger.

Inshallah habib....inshallah...
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I don’t know that anger is entirely misplaced but I think the transactional nature of voting decisions we all have to make may have been grossly miscalculated.
 
Adam Tooze chalks up the rightward shift of the multicultural working class to its immediate distaste for a college-educated professional-managerial class that is always telling it what to do and how to think. Given the choice, then, they prefer a brash billionaire who rubs the PMC the wrong way over lady lawyers in pant suits.

 
Paine said:
$25,000 down payment assistance isn’t helping people who rent.
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I was definitely going to buy a house if I could've gotten $25K in down payment assistance and certainly will if it becomes available anytime in the future...
 
Paine said:
Oh yeah, me too. I’m looking to buy a house this year, and it would’ve been a huge help to me and a lot of potential home buyers (as long as it didn’t just push prices up $25,000).

I guess I should’ve said it doesn’t do much for people who aren’t close to buying a house. It’s a supply issue in terms of affordable rental units. I don’t know that the number of people buying a house w/ the assistance would increase in a way that appreciably takes pressure off the rental market.
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You want to really take pressure off the rental AND purchase markets...outlaw short term rentals nationwide unless licensed as a hotel. Definitely do this with rental arbitrage. That's your real shortage. We have probably 1/4 of the housing stock in the Triangle sitting empty 50% of the time because everybody and their brother owns 3 short term rentals.

The problem with that is that we are addicted to VRBO and AirBnB as a society.

All those fancy apartments in North Hills in Raleigh are at about 35-40% occupancy for residents. The rest are tenants who have 10-15 units and rent them out nightly 2 nights a week when people want to come to party or see a concert. Building management looks the other way because it lowers their costs by having the units out of service so much and puts less pressure on building amenities.
 
wmheel1287 said:
You want to really take pressure off the rental AND purchase markets...outlaw short term rentals nationwide unless licensed as a hotel. Definitely do this with rental arbitrage. That's your real shortage. We have probably 1/4 of the housing stock in the Triangle sitting empty 50% of the time because everybody and their brother owns 3 short term rentals.

The problem with that is that we are addicted to VRBO and AirBnB as a society.

All those fancy apartments in North Hills in Raleigh are at about 35-40% occupancy for residents. The rest are tenants who have 10-15 units and rent them out nightly 2 nights a week when people want to come to party or see a concert. Building management looks the other way because it lowers their costs by having the units out of service so much and puts less pressure on building amenities.
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Thanks for the information-I fully understand you are the opoposite of full of crap on such usses
 
HeelYeah2012 said:
I'm floored that you guys don't understand why Arab Americans didn't fall in line behind Biden/Harris.
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Since messaging is all the rage now: If the perceived Democratic messaging is that "we will let Bibi do what the hell he wants" , then what kind of message is that? You know, its not just Arab Americans that have an issue with that, not to mention its wrong.

I get it, that there are two opposing voter groups here, but we can't point out the difference in supporting Israel and opposing an extremist like Bibi? Something has got to be out of whack here.
 
nycfan said:
I don’t know that anger is entirely misplaced but I think the transactional nature of voting decisions we all have to make may have been grossly miscalculated.
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They have marginalized themselves for a decade at least. Nobody will ever count on their vote for anything ever again. Which means they might get some confetti thrown their way once every four years (but probably not, since their communities are likely pariahs), but will not share in the spoils of any Dem victories.
 
Paine said:
I’d be lying if I said I didn’t utilize short term rentals, but I just don’t understand using them in places with good to great hotels like Raleigh. A cabin in the mountains is one thing.
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I do, given that my wife and I frequently vacation with 6 kids. It seems to me that there are a few use cases:

1. Summer vacation spots. Where I live, there are tons of properties that are available during the summer for VRBO use. I think we all accept this as a good use case. It's not a cabin in the mountains, but same idea.

2. Cities. This is where I think maybe you're not appreciating how the rentals help people traveling in large groups. That said, I have no idea what % of the short term renters fit this category. Everywhere I've rented (one in a city, otherwise vacation), it's clear that the properties are frequently rented to large groups. In related news, since we pretty much always travel with 8, we're only looking at those properties. No idea what % of the market I'm describing.

3. People who want to cook in a kitchen. Again, this is a must for me, because taking 8 to a restaurant for every meal is very expensive. This category partly overlaps with the big families category, but not entirely. My wife used to work every other week in a rural area serving a poor population. She wanted to cook at least some of the time (in part because restaurant options were pretty limited). There were no good hotels, to your point, but I think she probably would have gone with the non-hotel property anyway.
 
75% of the time I use VRBO its as a return customer---and I contract directly with the owner-skipping alll the VRBO costs Like one half or less than a hotel room......and all the stuff Super said
 
Yeah, I've got nothing against Glenfiddich or Glenlivet, but it's nice to have something else to choose from. Luckily I didn't start drinking scotch until 10 or so years ago, lol...
 
You missed the golden years when 18 year old Macallan was 25 dollars a fifth. Bourbon was the same way for a while a little later on. You could walk in, find a dozen bottles of Blanton's on the shelf and get it for under 30.
 
finesse said:
Where I grew up there was a little country store that had the basics a mile from the house down a dirt road. I don't think there was what you would consider a grocery store within five miles. I was 16 before I saw a pizza, 18 before I saw a taco. There was one or two kinds of mustard, ketchup or mayonnaise. As late as the early 70s , there was only one single malt scotches, Glenfiddich and two kinds of rye, 80 proof Jim Beam and Wild Turkey 101. The list goes on and on. There are fruits and nut either available all year and a lot that we never even heard of.
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My father got turned on to single malt in the 60s and yep, Glenfiddich was all you could get here. So whenever he travelled to Philly, DC or wherever for work he would hunt down liquor stores and pick up something new. Overflowed the bar in the house and built a custom shelf thing for them. Thus, by the time I was 15 I had developed a pretty good palate as I was allowed a small glass with a few good sips here and there. Then, in my poorer days he would give me a half full bottle every now and then to enjoy for special occasions.

Learned during the hard drinking days, especially in bars, you do 2 or 3 single malts, then the blended stuff as you probably are wasting $ by then on the good stuff.
 
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