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I do want conservatives on here

No self-professed conservative can support law and order, on the one hand, and the Trump family's brazen corruption, on the other. To pretend it's not corruption is to cuck your own brain.

And I'm not even talking about the half-a-billion-dollar jet or the pardons for $1M dinners. The day-to-day crypto schemes and bribery have netted the Trumps approximately $700M: https://www.nytimes.com/2025/05/28/opinion/ezra-klein-podcast-zeke-faux.html
 
heelinhell said:
Color me naive and hopeful that there are true and serious conservatives lurking here who may be willing to come forth and engage in an exchange of competing ideas about how best to preserve our democratic republic and move the country forward...
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There are none. The true and serious conservatives have long since made their voices be heard and they've jumped ship. George Will. John McCain. Mitt Romney. Liz Cheney. Adam Kinzinger. Bill Kristol. David Brooks. etc.

There are some conservatives who are former Republicans on this board no doubt. But they aren't going to exchange in competing ideas because they are now on the same side. They flipped because they know right from wrong.

The remaining "conservatives" on this board who have yet to flip to the right side of history, are disingenuous arselings. They shall remain nameless, but their initials are: Ramrouser, Maxcrow, Callatroy, 45and47, etc. etc.
 
Mulberry Heel said:
This is most "leaderless" that I've seen Democrats since the 1980s, when they were blown out in three straight presidential elections and lost control of the Senate between 1981 and 1987. The difference is that then the Democrats at least controlled the House for that entire twelve-year period and were still competitive in most rural areas and in most states, including most of the South. I've come to the belief that Democrats are just shellshocked by Trump, and especially him winning a second time as a convicted felon, and they're still trying to figure out some way to respond. The reaction to his victory in 2016 was surprise but also anger and a lot of determination to resist. The reaction to his win last year, from what I saw on social media and in real life, was very different - a real sense of depression and head-shaking at what this country has become. I think Democrats generally, from top to bottom, are still trying to feel their way through a sick nation and decaying political system that has become something that many of them don't recognize anymore.
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I’d argue that from 1981 through 1983, the Democrats did NOT control the House.

Phil Gramm (Dem. - TX) was closely allied with the Reagan Administration. Gramm and the other Boll Weevil Democrats voted with the Reagan Administration.

During the brutal 1982 recession, the off-year election landed and the Democrats regained control of the House.
 
Centerpiece said:
There are none. The true and serious conservatives have long since made their voices be heard and they've jumped ship. George Will. John McCain. Mitt Romney. Liz Cheney. Adam Kinzinger. Bill Kristol. David Brooks. etc.

There are some conservatives who are former Republicans on this board no doubt. But they aren't going to exchange in competing ideas because they are now on the same side. They flipped because they know right from wrong.

The remaining "conservatives" on this board who have yet to flip to the right side of history, are disingenuous arselings. They shall remain nameless, but their initials are: Ramrouser, Maxcrow, Callatroy, 45and47, etc. etc.
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Maxcrow?

The Maxcrowder on TDD?

He posts on this board? What is his username?
 
I have mixed feelings. I genuinely want open conversations, and I believe there’s common ground to be found—but those topics rarely seem to come up.

Sometimes I worry that I come across as harsh toward other posters. I try not to be, but written communication isn’t always my strong suit.

What really bothers me is when people don’t post things we can actually discuss or debate. Instead, like silence, they share content that seems to celebrate others’ pain—and that’s something I’m completely against. Even in the FAFO thread, I feel sympathy for the people on the “FO” side. I don’t take joy in their suffering. I honestly don’t understand how anyone can.
 
breepf said:
No self-professed conservative can support law and order, on the one hand, and the Trump family's brazen corruption, on the other. To pretend it's not corruption is to cuck your own brain.

And I'm not even talking about the half-a-billion-dollar jet or the pardons for $1M dinners. The day-to-day crypto schemes and bribery have netted the Trumps approximately $700M: https://www.nytimes.com/2025/05/28/opinion/ezra-klein-podcast-zeke-faux.html
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It's a Bank Robbery in broad daylight.
 
gtyellowjacket said:
Reagan loved him some evangelicals. Goldwater pushed them away because he thought they were nuts and would take the party away from conservatism in the sense of a smaller government. He lost, but he was proven exactly right.
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In fairness, Buckley excoriated the John Birch Society...
 
Centerpiece said:
So in today's lesson - we've come full circle. Why do we really want "conservatives"- as they pretend to be in the world - on this board? And I can say this, coming from a LONG FUCKING LINE OF REPUBLICANS (of the Lincoln, Teddy, Dwight variety).

“The question was posed, "Why do people continue supporting Trump no matter what he does?" A lady named Bev answered it this way:
“You all don't get it. I live in Trump country, in the Ozarks in southern Missouri, one of the last places where the KKK still has a relatively strong established presence.
They don't give a shit what he does. He's just something to rally around and hate liberals, that's it, period.
He absolutely realizes that and plays it up. They love it. He knows they love it.
The fact that people act like it's anything other than that proves to them that liberals are idiots, all the more reason for high fives all around.
If you keep getting caught up in "why do they not realize this problem" and "how can they still back Trump after this scandal," then you do not understand what the underlying motivating factor of his support is. It's fuck liberals, that's pretty much it.
Have you noticed he can do pretty much anything imaginable, and they'll explain some way that rationalizes it that makes zero logical sense?
Because they're not even keeping track of any coherent narrative, it's irrelevant. Fuck liberals is the only relevant thing.
Trust me; I know firsthand what I'm talking about.
That's why they just laugh at it all because you all don't even realize they truly don't give a fuck about whatever the conversation is about.
It's just a side mission story that doesn't matter anyway.
That's all just trivial details - the economy, health care, whatever.
Fuck liberals.
Look at the issue with not wearing the masks.
I can tell you what that's about. It's about exposing fear. They're playing chicken with nature, and whoever flinches just moved down their internal pecking order, one step closer to being a liberal.
You've got to understand the one core value that they hold above all others is hatred for what they consider weakness because that's what they believe strength is, hatred of weakness.
And I mean passionate, sadistic hatred.
And I'm not exaggerating. Believe me.
Sadistic, passionate hatred, and that's what proves they're strong, their passionate hatred for weakness.
Sometimes they will lump vulnerability in with weakness.
They do that because people tend to start humbling themselves when they're in some compromising or overwhelming circumstance, and to them, that's an obvious sign of weakness.
Kindness = weakness. Honesty = weakness.
Compromise = weakness.
They consider their very existence to be superior in every way to anyone who doesn't hate weakness as much as they do.
They consider liberals to be weak people that are inferior, almost a different species, and the fact that liberals are so weak is why they have to unite in large numbers, which they find disgusting, but it's that disgust that is a true expression of their natural superiority.
Go ahead and try to have a logical, rational conversation with them. Just keep in mind what I said here and be forewarned.”
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The sad thing is you can type this whole thing over again except this time, let it be a description of how liberals feel towards conservatives and it will have just as much, if not more, validity as it does now. And I'm not even a Republican, never have been.
 
dukeman92 said:
I was gonna say, Max is a Democrat. He HATES Trump.
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I need to label those who I’ve ignored as Trumper or Dookie so I can cast my aspersions accordingly. I’ll remove max’s moniker from my posts above. I’ll abide the Dukes as long as he’s an antiTrumper.
 
Centerpiece said:
I need to label those who I’ve ignored as Trumper or Dookie so I can cast my aspersions accordingly. I’ll remove max’s moniker from my posts above. I’ll abide the Dukes as long as he’s an antiTrumper.
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Us Dukies aren't all bad. Just as all you guys aren't all bad. With everything that's going on in today's world, I'm just looking to associate myself with good people.
 
I am never in favor of outright banning based on ideology. Excessive baiting/trolling for the sake of riling people up? Sure, that's something to police. But no virtual space ever improved by simply banning dissenting viewpoints, even incredibly stupid and destructive ones.
 
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