Mack Brown gone - will not return after 2024 season

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superrific said:
I don't watch a lot of UNC football games any more, but isn't a big part of the problem simply effort? The players don't play hard. They aren't physical. One would think that a different coach could improve on that.
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Nope, not according to a few posters in this thread. The best we can hope for is letting JMU hang 70 on us at home, losing to BC’s backup QB by 20, and getting humiliated by State every year. To expect for better than that is unrealistic.
 
Icky Mettle said:
The question isn’t whether the next coach will be more successful that Mack 2.0 has been. The question is whether that new coach will likely be more successful than Mack Brown would be in seasons to come.
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Peppers49 said:
Nope, not according to a few posters in this thread. The best we can hope for is letting JMU hang 70 on us at home, losing to BC’s backup QB by 20, and getting humiliated by State every year. To expect for better than that is unrealistic.
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No, expecting a coach to win 9 or 10 games year in and year out is unrealistic given our 100 year history.
 
Icky Mettle said:
No one is expecting that. At a minimum, people just want to beat opponents we are favored to beat and beat NC State. That’s not asking too much.
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so it's not the number of wins that matter. If we win only 7 games a year but win the games in which we are favored and beat ncst your ok with that ?

You're are pretty close to my metric for a successful season. Have a winning record, go to a bowl game, and beat our instate rivals.
 
heelinhell said:
No, expecting a coach to win 9 or 10 games year in and year out is unrealistic given our 100 year history.
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Honestly, given that the ACC is historically weak and you schedule an extra win compared to previous, 8-10 wins is not that hard given our typical talent level relative to who we play. We’ve gotten to 7-8 wins yearly and that’s with horrendous coaching the last few years
 
heelinhell said:
so it's not the number of wins that matter. If we win only 7 games a year but win the games in which we are favored and beat ncst your ok with that ?

You're are pretty close to my metric for a successful season. Have a winning record, go to a bowl game, and beat our instate rivals.
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In the past few years, the Heels have lost quite a few games that they should not have lost and had close calls against teams they should have beaten soundly. Upsets happen. Sometimes you match up against a team on the wrong day. But Mack 2.0 has had a few too many of those losses, and it doesn’t look like he’s righting the ship from here. In fact, it looks like the opposite is happening.
 
Icky Mettle said:
In the past few years, the Heels have lost quite a few games that they should not have lost and had close calls against teams they should have beaten soundly. Upsets happen. Sometimes you match up against a team on the wrong day. But Mack 2.0 has had a few too many of those losses, and it doesn’t look like he’s righting the ship from here. In fact, it looks like the opposite is happening.
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Again, I will not be unhappy if Mack is fired or retires. I'm hoping we beat ncst and win our bowl game. For me that will make for a successful season.

The next coach coming in will likely be about as successful as the last 18 coaches... so any coach we are able to get next year will be "meet the new coach, same as the old coach " .
 
heelinhell said:
Again, I will not be unhappy if Mack is fired or retires. I'm hoping we beat ncst and win our bowl game. For me that will make for a successful season.

The next coach coming in will likely be about as successful as the last 18 coaches... so any coach we are able to get next year will be "meet the new coach, same as the old coach " .
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I don’t know. After Mack Brown 1.0’s rough start in his first two seasons, he turned out to be the best coach we ever had. So it wasn’t “meet the new coach, same as the old coach” then. Who’s to say that can’t happen again? It can’t possibly happen until we hire another coach. Who’s to say that that coach, at a minimum, can’t be almost as good as Mack 1.0?

Did you say the same thing toward the end of Dick Crum’s time at UNC? At that point had been about the best UNC had ever had. Great start followed by some years that were fairly consistent with the football team’s season records throughout its history. But we made a change and ended up getting a better coach who altered the trajectory of the program for at least a few years.
 
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heelinhell said:
Again, I will not be unhappy if Mack is fired or retires. I'm hoping we beat ncst and win our bowl game. For me that will make for a successful season.

The next coach coming in will likely be about as successful as the last 18 coaches... so any coach we are able to get next year will be "meet the new coach, same as the old coach " .
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Given the administration UNC has you may be right but even with a win over lol and in a bowl, there is no way that would be considered successful unless you are speaking about your own expectations. Losses to dook, JMU, bc, and pitt are inexcusable. Especially in how the losses to dook, JMU, and bc occurred.
 
Ramrouser said:
We're in a tough, tough situation.

UNC has a 73 year old HOF coach whom everyone in college football (including our big donors) adores. But...
Mack clearly missed his moment in 2.0 by failing to capitalize on the Orange Bowl season, failing to develop the players in the early recruiting classes, and the recent mediocrity notwithstanding 5 straight years of an NFL QB as our signal caller.

Now, UNC is left to plod along until Mack wants to leave. For different reasons than late Fedora, no talented recruit is going to give us a 2nd look and we don't have the NIL money to simply purchase a team. Fan interest next season will be very low and expect to see lots of blue seats on our noon CW games. This will add to recruits avoiding us. To add final insult to injury our in state rival has owned us.

Classic loop of doom.
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Missed his moment? Ummmm. No.

Trump told us all who he was and who his cult would be. "I could go out on 5th Ave. and shoot someone and not lose a single voter." The most honest and true thing he has ever said.

Likewise, Mack came in telling us "I told Sally I would not coach again if I would continue to let losses bother me." He was telling us exactly what he was bringing, a half-assed retiree effort, more concerned about being the grandpa buddy to players and having fun. A country club atmosphere. And it has shown BIG time. Undisciplined unaccountable play. Coddling and lack of development. Mentally, physically, and overall soft play and players with poor technique and poor results.

I feel slightly bad about hammering him on effort at his current age and state. But when he came in he still had plenty of pep, and it was still a hobby for him. I keep reading "if Mack really cares about UNC like he says he does......." I say bullshit. Mack cares about Mack. If you are getting paid $5 Mill a year, you should be willing to get stressed and pissed off with total collapses all the time. He should have never taken the job and pay if he was going to half-ass it.

I predict 5% chance he retires. 15% chance fired. He'll be back.
 
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