Mack Brown gone - will not return after 2024 season

[sringwal]

It's strange that the guy whose primary super power is his ability to recruit couldn't make it happen in an era where 99% of the game now is recruiting.

Money talks.

 

[EhringhausSouth]

Glenn Schuman
Jesse Minter
Jon Sumrall


These are top 3 candidates I am told.

 

[wmheel1287]

Glenn Schuman
Jesse Minter
Jon Sumrall


These are top 3 candidates I am told.

I'd love Minter. Got to know him some when he was the D coordinator at Michigan. He's the real deal.

 

[Ramrouser]

Glenn Schuman
Jesse Minter
Jon Sumrall


These are top 3 candidates I am told.

Wow, those are exciting choices. I don't get the Minter connection. Why would a hot shot DC, who's likely to land an NFL HC job soon, want to come to UNC to coach? Quick stepping stone to NFL?

 

[UNCBAdookJD]

That’s not a good enough reason to not make a coaching change.

Especially with the portal. Deion basically turned over an entire roster in one season. Our roster also isn’t so good that it’s worth preserving relative to the gains that could be had with a better coach.

 

[CFordUNC]

I don’t think we’re going to get Jesse Minter, as he is on the short track to become an NFL head coach within the next 2 to 3 years most likely. Glenn Schumann is definitely interesting to me but I don’t love hiring a guy who has no head coaching experience. I know he’s been at Georgia, I know he’s one of Kirby’s guys, etc. I just don’t know that I want to go the route of no head coaching experience for this next hire. Sumrall would be a very good hire but I am curious to see if his sights are set a little bit higher than UNC.

 

[1moretimeagain]

My IC membership expires tomorrow. Timing could not be worse lol

 

[Centerpiece]

Now that that's settled what happens next:
A) Team comes out fired up and beats State (win one for the Gipper!)
B) Team comes out fired up and beats State (Elated to learn Mack is gone, looking forward to next year)
C) Team comes out flat and gets smoked by State (feeling sorry for themselves and for Mack)
D) Team comes out flat and gets smoked by State (because that's just who this team is, regardless of Mack leaving)

Also, 2 other questions:

Does Mack stay to coach the Bowl game?
Or does the team even accept a bowl invite?

 

[Milk and Cookies]

I don’t think we’re going to get Jesse Minter, as he is on the short track to become an NFL head coach within the next 2 to 3 years most likely. Glenn Schumann is definitely interesting to me but I don’t love hiring a guy who has no head coaching experience. I know he’s been at Georgia, I know he’s one of Kirby’s guys, etc. I just don’t know that I want to go the route of no head coaching experience for this next hire. Sumrall would be a very good hire but I am curious to see if his sights are set a little bit higher than UNC.

Hiring a first time head coach might be the best chance we have to get a high ceiling guy. I know it’s not ideal but we’re not a tier 1 program so if he’s a proven HC he’s going somewhere else. I don’t follow this stuff close enough to tell if he’s worth that gamble but a gamble might be needed to get a program-shifting talent.

 

[CFordUNC]

Hiring a first time head coach might be the best chance we have to get a high ceiling guy. I know it’s not ideal but we’re not a tier 1 program so if he’s a proven HC he’s going somewhere else. I don’t follow this stuff close enough to tell if he’s worth that gamble but a gamble might be needed to get a program-shifting talent.

Yeah, shoot, that is definitely a good point about a higer-ceiling guy. I would definitely be intrigued by and open to a Schumann hire, don't get me wrong!

 

[superrific]

It seems to me that the main purpose of firing a coach is to get a fan base of a bad team needlessly (and eventually heart-breakingly) excited for another shitty season.

 

[Ramrouser]

All of these guys are likely to demand not only a high salary, but a substantially higher NIL budget going forward.

UNC has zero history of a willingness to pay fmv for top coaches. I hope this changes obviously.

 

[Icky Mettle]

Now that that's settled what happens next:
A) Team comes out fired up and beats State (win one for the Gipper!)
B) Team comes out fired up and beats State (Elated to learn Mack is gone, looking forward to next year)
C) Team comes out flat and gets smoked by State (feeling sorry for themselves and for Mack)
D) Team comes out flat and gets smoked by State (because that's just who this team is, regardless of Mack leaving)

Also, 2 other questions:

Does Mack stay to coach the Bowl game?
Or does the team even accept a bowl invite?

Last time Mack didn’t coach a bowl game at the end of season where he coached every other game, we want on to have 27 straight seasons that never came close to as good as that season where he missed the bowl game.

 

[Zoo_View]

Last time Mack didn’t coach a bowl game at the end of season where he coached every other game, we want on to have 27 straight seasons that never came close to as good as that season where he missed the bowl game.

Mack left a much better team behind in 1997 than he’s leaving in 2024.

That 1997 Tar Heel team tore Virginia Tech a new one in the Gator Bowl…..a much better bowl than the 2024 Heels will be in.

Improving from 11-1 is a much bigger job than 6-6, 6-7, 7-6, or 8-5.

 

[sringwal]

My IC membership expires tomorrow. Timing could not be worse lol

The real reason for firing Mack was, of course, to get you to re-up your subscription.

 

[heelinhell]

Mack left a much better team behind in 1997 than he’s leaving in 2024.

That 1997 Tar Heel team tore Virginia Tech a new one in the Gator Bowl…..a much better bowl than the 2024 Heels will be in.

Improving from 11-1 is a much bigger job than 6-6, 6-7, 7-6, or 8-5.

and the three years after Mack a much better team behind in 1997, we finished the following 3 seasons 7-5, 3-8, and6-5

 

[CFordUNC]

Reckon I am probably reading way too much into this, but lots of folks on the Georgia board, from what I’ve seen, aren’t sweating the possibility of losing Schumann to UNC. Not that that necessarily means anything, of course. Just thought it was interesting.

I tend to think that we need, in this order, someone who 1. has previous collegiate head coaching experience, and 2. is more defensive-minded. Bonus points if we check both boxes.

 

[Bobfripp]

Now that that's settled what happens next:
A) Team comes out fired up and beats State (win one for the Gipper!)
B) Team comes out fired up and beats State (Elated to learn Mack is gone, looking forward to next year)
C) Team comes out flat and gets smoked by State (feeling sorry for themselves and for Mack)
D) Team comes out flat and gets smoked by State (because that's just who this team is, regardless of Mack leaving)

Also, 2 other questions:

Does Mack stay to coach the Bowl game?
Or does the team even accept a bowl invite?

option D) seems most likely.

 

[Zoo_View]

and the three years after Mack a much better team behind in 1997, we finished the following 3 seasons 7-5, 3-8, and6-5

We were benefiting from Dick Baddour’s hiring prowess.

 

[heelinhell]

I don’t think we’re going to get Jesse Minter, as he is on the short track to become an NFL head coach within the next 2 to 3 years most likely. Glenn Schumann is definitely interesting to me but I don’t love hiring a guy who has no head coaching experience. I know he’s been at Georgia, I know he’s one of Kirby’s guys, etc. I just don’t know that I want to go the route of no head coaching experience for this next hire. Sumrall would be a very good hire but I am curious to see if his sights are set a little bit higher than UNC.

I don't think you have to worry about Schumann leaving Georgia for UNC. He is 34 years old making over 2 million as the DC. He has a very close relationship with Kirby Smart. He will patiently wait for a HC job at a football school.