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Callatoroy said:
So the most liberal person to ever run for president tried to court republicans? How did she do that? Apparently I missed that.
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Kamala Harris was not and is not the most liberal person ever to run for president.

The phrase "the most liberal person to ever run for president" was tested in Republican focus groups and found to work on a subset of particularly gullible people who tend to think more with their emotions than with their prefrontal cortex.

True story.
 
Paine said:
Repeated snubs of Israel??? What planet are you on.
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nypost.com

Kamala Harris has long line of anti-Israel statements following Hamas’ Oct. 7 terrorist attacks

Harris has made no illusions that she would prefer a tougher stance on Israel than her boss.
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Pro-Israel Democratic voters are going to hold their noses in many cases and vote for Trump. Because Trump may be bad, but no Israel is worse,” said Hank Sheinkopf, a longtime Democratic consultant.

“The pro-Israel Democratic community is shrinking and it will shrink further with Kamala Harris because she’s been very clear about how she feels. She has limited respect for the most important ally America has in the Middle East and an ally that is now fighting a proxy war at great cost against America’s greatest enemy, which is Iran,” Sheinkopf added.
 
Callatoroy said:
That’s interesting. Curious as to how you would compare the degree of liberalness given the different times in history.
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Contrast between their stances and those of the time. The gap was much broader then.

At least, I have something to lean on. Your claim has been repeated about every Democratic nominee since LBJ. It's neither factual or important.
 
uncjhodges said:
I’m not trying to speak for AGDevil, but they may, like me, live here for unselfish reasons. Maybe they are here to take care of their parents as they age, or their partner has a particular tie to the area, or they have kids and don’t think it’s fair to uproot their kids and move them to a different country with a different language. I know it’s hard for a Trumper to imagine anything except caring about only yourself, but some others do
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nailed it. Parents are here and close by. Husband needs to work 12 more years to get his pension. Just changing up my career options to move at this point is not easy. And I love my home and property. I like NC overall - fairly good mix of liberal and not as much. But I am not so stupid to think this is a great country. It's racist, has a gross past, defers to the ugly side of humanity, cares little about the planet, etc.

Roy has griped about this very message board and it's posters....but yet is still here. So seems hypocritical.
 
fssheels said:
The comment was Shapiro doesn’t make a lick of difference. They win PA with Shapiro, maybe more. There is no telling how much Jewish vote they lost with their repeated snubs of Israel and Shapiro.
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Vice Presidential candidates more or less make zero difference to the success of campaigns. There is an enormous literature about that. You should try reading some of it.

Evidence: Kamala underperformed Biden in Minnesota, where Tim Walz remains popular. Walz had a much higher approval rating than Vance -- hell, the Trump campaign mostly sidelined Vance after it was clear just how horrible he is/was.
 
A different VP pick would have changed nothing unless they could have turned Kamala into a white male who ran on an "otherizing" platform.

In 2016 America was not going to elect a white woman
In 2024 America was not going to elect a black woman

Kamala ran a flawless campaign appealing to our better angels. Unfortunately today , better angels are the minority in this country so deal with it.
 
aGDevil2k said:
NC is about as 50-50 of a state as there is right now...the 7 battlegrounds all are. They will stay battlegrounds for a while IMO.
Calling us a "red state" is misleading. We havent gone the way of Virginia, but dems have so much of the exec leadership in the state now, it's a good sign
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Id say we're purple.
 
heelinhell said:
A different VP pick would have changed nothing unless they could have turned Kamala into a white male who ran on an "otherizing" platform.

In 2016 America was not going to elect a white woman
In 2024 America was not going to elect a black woman

Kamala ran a flawless campaign appealing to our better angels. Unfortunately today , better angels are the minority in this country so deal with it.
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This time last week I thought she had ran a fantastic campaign, but it unfortunately turned out trying to pull in moderate republicans was a terrible idea. No moderate R's swung for her in any meaningful way, and she must've alienated a large segment of Dems by things like Liz Cheney and all those Republican endorsements because her turnout was so suppressed.

She wasn't able to inspire anyone in such little time. Everything she did in August, where her campaign was just getting after Trump, the weirdness, right when she picked Walz and they seemed like an organic movement (whether it was or not I don't know), that was her best moments. After the DNC her campaign changed and it was way more corporate sounding, in hindsight.
 
lightbluenc said:
This time last week I thought she had ran a fantastic campaign, but it unfortunately turned out trying to pull in moderate republicans was a terrible idea. No moderate R's swung for her in any meaningful way, and she must've alienated a large segment of Dems by things like Liz Cheney and all those Republican endorsements because her turnout was so suppressed.

She wasn't able to inspire anyone in such little time. Everything she did in August, where her campaign was just getting after Trump, the weirdness, right when she picked Walz and they seemed like an organic movement (whether it was or not I don't know), that was her best moments. After the DNC her campaign changed and it was way more corporate sounding, in hindsight.
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Just because it didn't turn out well doesn't mean it was a terrible idea. It would not have been my strategy, but I don't think it made much of a difference.

The big problem was the assumption that Dems' relatively poor performance in early voting was just a choice of waiting until Election Day. If turnout is really much lower, then it's clear they weren't voting early because they didn't intend to vote, not because they were waiting.
 
Yosef said:
I love this country and maybe President elect Trump can bring back some sanity from the craziness this country was heading to.
It's refreshing to know the next 4 years will bring some common sense back to our great country.
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Shirley, you jest.
 
Tar1978Heel said:
Tell me who I am then since you know me…
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Keep posting and it will become even clearer. You guys think you are all so unique and different, like snowflakes. The reality is that you're dime a dozen and we've seen the likes of you many, many times. And it's always the same BS.

Maybe in your real life, you behave differently. You're right, I don't know that. But in terms of your message board persona, been there, done that x 1000
 
TarPhin said:
Do you mean common sense like suggesting drinking bleach to clean the Covid in your system?
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9 times out 10, appeals to common sense are the last resort when there is nothing else. Occasionally not, but usually "common sense" is what people say to when it's clear their interlocutor is correct and they have no response.
 
TarPhin said:
Do you mean common sense like suggesting drinking bleach to clean the Covid in your system?
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And you took that as a suggestion he was seriously making? Lol
I'm talking about the drag queens Biden had at the White House and the women who were flashing there boobies while on the grounds there. Wasn't cocaine found there too? This is just a touch of the insanity in talking about.
See, we can do this all day long about each of the candidates.
 
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