OFFICIAL ELECTION RESULTS - POTUS | TRUMP ELECTED 47th President

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Icky Mettle said:
It’s very frustrating that a very significant number of voters tend to think, “well, this candidate isn’t as perfect as I want my candidate to be, so I can’t vote for them” rather than, “this candidate will attempt to do x, while that candidate will attempt to do y, and I would prefer x over y.”
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So you just described every trump voter I know. I don't know a single person who likes him. And, they (we) will all be glad when he is out of the political process.
 
HeelInTheOzarks said:
The Democratic Party has to find a message that resonates with at least SOME working class whites.
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There is none. They are out there talking about how the hurricanes were the result of weather control.

Look at Trump's campaign. How did he find a message to appeal to some working class whites? He didn't. His campaign the last month was pure grievance and hate. That's what we are up against. They hate us. This is the combined effect of 25 years of demonization.

The only thing we can do is make sure the MAGAs feel the FO part of FA instead of the people who are usually on the end of that stick.
 
fssheels said:
* Trump wins 59% of white men voters nationwide; Harris wins 39%. Trump's share is down two percentage points from a 2020 exit poll.

More white men voted for Harris than Biden. Hispanic vote increased for Trump in a big way.
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As did the black vote and the under 30 vote. Harris underperformed biden in many areas. Your subversion of the political process led to the choosing of a candidate that the dem voters overwhelmingly rejected in 2020 and wasn't given a choice in this election. Hand picked by a few people. That should make your side angry.
 
Paine said:
Okay, well feel free to just pack it up then and we just won’t compete in any more elections.

I’ll still advocate for what I think is the winning position. Osborn outperformed Harris by almost ten points.
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I know what you are trying to say, but I think it is less about not trying to compete and more about waiting for the GOP to break everything and the squishy middle deciding they are tired of this shit. I am beginning to think 99% of winning an election is just being the person running when the tired of this shit crowd decides it's time to switch. It doesn't matter if their lives are better under the system they are trying to get rid of, petty grievances fester and it comes to a head, be it logical or not.
 
This election reminds me a bit of 1992. Bush the father was running for reelection after an extremely successful four years. But Bush was only focused on foreign policy which was his cup of tea. Totally had no clue how to message the economy. What were voters to think when he said he couldn't do anything about the ity bitty recession, that they were normal business cycles.

Biden was totally focused on passing stuff thru Congress because that was his background. He had no clue how to message the economic issues. Voters make you pay when they get the idea you are out of touch. Say what you want to about Trump, but his voters thought he cared more about them then Biden and the Democrats. Might also contribute to why Democrats are losing blue collar workers.
 
superrific said:
There is none. They are out there talking about how the hurricanes were the result of weather control.

Look at Trump's campaign. How did he find a message to appeal to some working class whites? He didn't. His campaign the last month was pure grievance and hate. That's what we are up against. They hate us. This is the combined effect of 25 years of demonization.

The only thing we can do is make sure the MAGAs feel the FO part of FA instead of the people who are usually on the end of that stick.
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and for fuck's sake don't bail them out. Let them come to us when they have had enough.
 
BlooVooDoo said:
I don’t know how you blend that message with the divisive, hateful rhetoric that has become part and parcel of Republican politics. And to be clear, it’s the rhetoric that MAGA finds most appealing.
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Well I meant the lying worked for Bill. I don't think he really felt their pain. His policies didn't really help the lower class.
 
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