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I've posted it before, but I still think that Shapiro and Kelly are likely to help Kamala the most. I like Cooper and Beshear, but I doubt that either of them could bring their home state with them (especially Beshear, no way deep-red KY ever votes for Kamala) and they both have less upside for this particular election than Shapiro or Kelly, imo. Beshear is still young and might actually be a strong candidate in 2028. I'm also wary of having Cooper leave NC for long periods of time as god knows what Robinson and the GOP state legislature might try to pull in his absence.
 
“Vice President Kamala Harris is making plans to announce a running mate by Aug. 7 and her aides are conducting the first round of interviews with people in consideration by video calls given the tight timeline, according to four people briefed on the plans.

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The Harris campaign began the vetting process on Tuesday and aims to make its selection quickly in order to eliminate legal risk related to securing ballot access in Ohio, according to three of the four people briefed on the plans, as well as another person. Ohio law had mandated that the major political parties certify the names of their candidates for president and vice president by Aug. 7. In May, Ohio lawmakers pushed the state’s ballot access deadline to Sept. 1, but some Democrats say they do not trust that Republicans will not mount legal challenges if the party submits a ticket after Aug. 7.

Delegates to the Democratic National Convention will begin voting on Ms. Harris’s nomination for president on Aug. 1, provided that no one else qualifies to challenge her, the convention’s rules committee decided this week. The party’s rules do not require a similar roll-call vote for a vice-presidential nominee. That choice can be certified by the chair of the convention, Minyon Moore, a longtime Democratic Party official who is an ally of Ms. Harris. …”

 
CFordUNC said:
I am no political strategist, and after how adamant I was that Biden shouldn't/wouldn't step aside nobody should take my political takes with much more than a grain of salt, but the more I think about it, the more I think that the VP pick needs to be Josh Shapiro. As much as I like Mark Kelly, I just think that strategically Pennsylvania is so crucial to Harris's electoral path that it makes the most sense to me to select Shapiro. I know that Arizona went blue in 2020 but I don't think we should feel like we can count on it to do so in 2024, and there is a much more viable pathway to victory without Arizona than there is sans Pennsylvania and their 19 EV's. With Pennsylvania, all Harris needs is Michigan and Wisconsin (and Nebraska-2) to win. She can even afford to have both Arizona and Georgia flip back, and have Nevada flip. Without Pennsylvania, she has to have both Arizona *and* Georgia in addition to Michigan and Wisconsin.

Maybe I'm overthinking it, and maybe Shapiro could still help her carry Pennsylvania even while not on the ticket. Or maybe Kelly could actually help ensure that Arizona stays blue this cycle. Or maybe VP picks don't really have that much of a substantial impact on the ticket's ability to carry their home state historically. But it just feels to me like pulling out all of the stops to make sure Pennsylvania is in the bag for Blue is the best strategy.
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How popular is Shapiro in PA anyway? He won a landslide against one of the weakest gubernatorial candidates in a competitive race that I can remember. Also on the ballot was Oz.

I think she should pick the best person for her campaign. Don't worry about the geography. The chances that Shapiro-PA will decide the election are very low.
 
GoHeelsweeeehoooo said:
The big issue with Cooper is that anytime he left the state the Looney tunes lt governor would be in charge and who knows what kind of crazy shit he might pull
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I've heard that from a couple different pundits, that and he is wanting to take Tillis' Senate seat in 2 years.
 
tallheel95 said:
My husband just sent this article to me, noting, "This is persuasive..."

slate.com

Every Harris VP Possibility Has Real Risk—Except for One

It’s quite clear who her best running mate would be.
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I'm still not sold on two women on the ticket. I think that Whitmer would be a fantastic VP (or President), but I fear that an all-female ticket would cost some votes among independents and conservative never-Trumpers. IMO, still too much misogyny from men over 40 for two women on the same ticket.
 
TarHeelGrad said:
I'm still not sold on two women on the ticket. I think that Whitmer would be a fantastic VP (or President), but I fear that an all-female ticket would cost some votes among independents and conservative never-Trumpers. IMO, still too much misogyny from men over 40 for two women on the same ticket.
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Agreed. We're talking about the first AFAM female president. Now tack on a female VP.

Let's get an historic victory with the first one. I'd love the ticket personally and would wholeheartedly vote for them but I worry the country isn't quite ready. And with Trump 2.0 leering over this country, I'm hesitant to see us that leap of faith given the stakes.
 
CallMeTyler said:
Agreed. We're talking about the first AFAM female president. Now tack on a female VP.

Let's get an historic victory with the first one. I'd love the ticket personally and would wholeheartedly vote for them but I worry the country isn't quite ready. And with Trump 2.0 leering over this country, I'm hesitant to see us that leap of faith given the stakes.
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So now we are calling for a DEI white Boy nominee lol
(I agree with you callmetyler)
 
mpaer said:
So now we are calling for a DEI white Boy nominee lol
(I agree with you callmetyler)
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Tonight Show Comedian GIF by The Tonight Show Starring Jimmy Fallon
 
Paine said:
I think the issue set that Beshear emphasizes, as well as his contrast with JDV, make him the best candidate. Kelly also a good choice for similar reasons. Shapiro’s statements comparing Gaza protestors to the KKK turn me off to him.
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Yeah but DAMN he was good in his speech today
 
Ddseddse said:
Do you see it as a legit Twitter replacement? I'm in the market. I've been twitter free since Musk took over, but I do miss what it was in the good old days.
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You didn’t ask me but I quoted you and can’t figure out an easy way to undo that, so I’ll respond … don’t know about Spoutible but I am on Threads. Had hoped for more there but gave up when they tried to limit news in your feed b/c FB imagined it as more a social influencer site. Still have my account there, may check it out again.
 
nycfan said:
You didn’t ask me but I quoted you and can’t figure out an easy way to undo that, so I’ll respond … don’t know about Spoutible but I am on Threads. Had hoped for more there but gave up when they tried to limit news in your feed b/c FB imagined it as more a social influencer site. Still have my account there, may check it out again.
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Thanks. Looks like Threads is out, I'm defiantly looking to mainline news, among other content.

(I've been getting sort of decent results backing out of a quote by carefully selecting all the text in my reply box and deleting it)
 
tallheel95 said:
My husband just sent this article to me, noting, "This is persuasive..."

slate.com

Every Harris VP Possibility Has Real Risk—Except for One

It’s quite clear who her best running mate would be.
slate.com slate.com
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I thought that was one of the stupidest articles I've seen on Slate in a while. If you want to argue that Gretch is the best candidate, fine. But to pretend that she carries no risk is ludicrous. The "risk" for Mark Kelly was that organized labor might be peeved that he didn't support the PRO act. Yeah, Kamala will lose zero union support because of that.

Meanwhile, 26 states run governor and lieutenant governor as a ticket. Until 2022, a two-woman ticket had never won and I doubt many were even run. In 2022, the mostly non-competitive states of Arkansas and Massachusetts elected an all-female ticket. The idea that it is without risk to put two women on the same ticket is almost comically ludicrous. There are a lot of men out there who are uncomfortable with a female president; that's obvious. Some of them will go Kamala the same way that a lot of racists went for Obama. Put a second woman on the ticket and those men might feel henpecked. It might remind them of their wives' sisters coming to visit. It might make them feel completely emasculated. Who knows? The idea that there is no risk is ludicrous.

The guy writes "But it strains credibility on a basic level to assume that Americans would vote for one but not two women." To me, that roughly translates as "I don't understand how politics works, or advertising and mass marketing for that matter." Politics is about likeability, about making connections with voters. If a man feels threatened by seeing two women standing there holding hands above their heads, he very well could become alienated by the campaign. He won't say, "I'm not voting for Kamala because two women," but it very well could affect his perception of the whole campaign. He will just not like Kamala, and the rationalizations will come later.

Again, I can't quantify this effect, but it doesn't "strain credulity" that it might be dispositive in a close election. And it certainly isn't riskless. If he had other discussion on that point, maybe it would be more convincing but that is literally the entirety of his discussion about the two women issue.
 
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