Walz v. Vance VP Debate - Post-Game Thread | Vance now says Trump won in 2020

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4thgenheel said:
he definitely sounds more reasonable and is more well-spoken but he's still lying incessantly.
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Of course he is - that's always been a part of politics, no matter what anyone tells you. And not, candidly, unique to any party.
 
rodoheel said:
The difference is that there are state laws on the books, passed by Republicans, that don't allow for those exceptions. That ban abortion after just a few weeks. That criminalize doctors provide abortions leading to people getting killed.

These are not hypotheticals. These are laws, on the books, passed by Republican legislatures. Where are the laws passed by Democrats that enact the crazy hypotheticals Republicans rail about - like abortion after birth, that Trump just tweeted about like 15 minutes ago?
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I agree with you there are some awful abortion laws out there post-Roe. I am a pro choice Republican, as a reminder.

They tried to press Walz on the specifics of the law on abortion in Minnesota and he completely danced around the question.
 
CFordUNC said:
I think we may be talking in circles here. I'm not familiar with any singular Democratic politician who has ever said that elective abortions should be legal in the 3rd trimester, so I suppose they don't see a need to answer a weird hypothetical that is most likely not being asked in good faith. That's just my guess, but it's only a guess. I just think it's probably seen as an attempted "gotcha" question that isn't worth validating.
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Fair enough. But the question was recently asked by moderators from ABC News and CBS News in the presidential and VP debates, respectively. And not answered in either instance by Harris or Walz. Hell, the person who made y’all’s argument the most effectively was the moderator from ABC News who was debating Trump from the moderator stand a few weeks ago.
 
rodoheel said:
Of course he is - that's always been a part of politics, no matter what anyone tells you. And not, candidly, unique to any party.
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sure, sure....but as with the harris/trump debate, i expect the lie ratio in this debate will be something like 1:4, walz-vance.

trump and vance simply lie and obfuscate a LOT more because the truth mostly doesn't fit the narrative they're trying to sell.
 
HeelYeah2012 said:
Walz is doing an ok job overall but Vance schooled him on abortion just now. Vance was willing to take a centrist position on abortion but Walz was not.

Noteworthy given that abortion is generally an issue that Democrats win on.
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There is no such thing as a “centrist” position on abortion.
 
lawtig02 said:
Harris sounded perfectly normal in the last debate. It’s not stunning at all she’s the candidate. She’s a great one.
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No way on this earth you think she would be a good president or that she is qualified or competent to be president. Her only qualification to you guys is she isn’t trump. No way any objective, educated person thinks she is anything but a prop.
 
HeelYeah2012 said:
An analogy would be when they ask pro-life Republicans if they would outlaw abortions even in cases of rape/incest/life of mother. And usually most (sane) Republicans are able to say publicly they’re ok with the exceptions. Trump for sure has said this.

So why can’t Democratic politicians talk about any moral line in the sand? It’s just strange.

Anyhow, moving on from abortion now….
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trump also said that women who have abortions have to be punished.

trump will say anything at any time if it gets him what he wants. trump's words are worth less than a degree from trump university.
 
Callatoroy said:
No way on this earth you think she would be a good president or that she is qualified or competent to be president. Her only qualification to you guys is she isn’t trump. No way any objective, educated person thinks she is anything but a prop.
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Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha alright, this is is a great post.

I'M NOT MAD! REALLY, I'M NOT MAD! DON'T SAY THAT I AM MAD BECAUSE I AM NOT MAD!
 
Callatoroy said:
You seem triggered Cat. Can’t get a good night’s sleep if so angry.
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You misread that.

I'll sleep wonderfully.

I just didn't want to miss an opportunity to let everyone know my opinion of the lying, grifting, narcissist.

Hope you enjoy your evening. Goodnight.
 
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