Where do we go from here?

[336Heel]

Dems support the individual freedoms they like such as abortion. No so much on individual freedoms on:

Gun ownership
Vaccine mandates (“my body my choice”)
Excessive regulations
Free speech on social media
Freedom to purchase vehicle of choice (EV mandate)
Gas stoves and ovens
School choice

….you get the point.

I'll give you guns but there is no Government mandate for Vaccines, limiting of free speech on social media, EV mandate, or Gas stove ban.

Excessive regulation is subjective and related to businesses and not individuals. The term school choice is just a way for the right to divert money to private schools to help those who don't want their kids to go to school with undesirables.

 

[ChileG]

I don’t doubt variations of this are happening. It’s the convenience of each element of the original story that make it sound like an “I know a guy” sTory.

100% agree. The story you posted didn’t sound completely true to me.

 

[ChileG]

Dems support the individual freedoms they like such as abortion. No so much on individual freedoms on:

Gun ownership
Vaccine mandates (“my body my choice”)
Excessive regulations
Free speech on social media
Freedom to purchase vehicle of choice (EV mandate)
Gas stoves and ovens
School choice

….you get the point.

I do get your point, if your point is that the election was decided by low information voters.

 

[LeoBloom]

So vaccines are now about personal freedom?

My gosh, our situation is worse than I thought.

 

[ChileG]

So vaccines are now about personal freedom?

My gosh, our situation is worse than I thought.

What this dude is saying is that people should have the right to not take a vaccine but other people shouldn’t have the right to fire them for not taking the vaccine.

 

[UNCMSinLS]

Dems support the individual freedoms they like such as abortion. No so much on individual freedoms on:

Gun ownership
Vaccine mandates (“my body my choice”)
Excessive regulations
Free speech on social media
Freedom to purchase vehicle of choice (EV mandate)
Gas stoves and ovens
School choice

….you get the point.

What a stupid take. Did you actually read this? It sure doesn't seem like it. Try again. And this time use your brain.

 

[MOUNTAINH33L]

Dems support the individual freedoms they like such as abortion. No so much on individual freedoms on:

Gun ownership -Bullshit.
Vaccine mandates (“my body my choice”) - Bullshit
Excessive regulations - LOL
Free speech on social media - Bullshit
Freedom to purchase vehicle of choice (EV mandate) - Bullshit
Gas stoves and ovens - Bullshit
School choice - Bullshit

….you get the point.

If the point is that you are full of shit and you live in some fucked up fantasy world then yes we get the point.

 

[TangledUpInBlue06]

What this dude is saying is that people should have the right to not take a vaccine but other people shouldn’t have the right to fire them for not taking the vaccine.

A great many mistake "freedom" to mean freedom from consequences rather than freedom to make a decision for yourself.

 

[CFordUNC]

 

[UNCMSinLS]

I'll give you guns but there is no Government mandate for Vaccines, limiting of free speech on social media, EV mandate, or Gas stove ban.

Excessive regulation is subjective and related to businesses and not individuals. The term school choice is just a way for the right to divert money to private schools to help those who don't want their kids to go to school with undesirables.

I won't even give him guns. Never mind the "well-regulated militia" component of the 2nd Amendment (which the Supremely Unethical Court had on Super Ignore), regulating WEAPONS OF WAR seems like something the founders would have approved of. After all, they approved of a WELL-REGULATED MILITIA, for Christ's sake.

 

[BlueSmoke]

Actually, a good argument is that in most of those Senate races, the incumbent underperformed by 4 to 6 points of what they should have done. Incumbent Senate candidates, even in swing states usually come in several points higher then the Presidential. And then there's PA. No way Casey should have lost that. And he pretty much knew there was a problem by the way he distanced himself from Harris.

 

[hedge]

Being completely honest, I haven’t followed a single one of those cases in detail so I have zero informed opinion on whatever those cases are about and what the specific evidence showed. If my life depended on me trying to name you 3 of the 30+ felonies he’s been charged with, I couldn’t do it.

I believe that Trump was only prosecuted because he upsets the political machine like no other person in modern history. Not because he committed serious crimes.

Interesting juxtaposition of opinions. You were certainly correct about the "zero informed opinion" part, though. Blind squirrel, nut, etc...

 

[UNCatTech]

Another from Twitter:
"A reminder that when Trump supporters were given Harris policy proposals blindly they supported them. Also, those who had incorrect facts about the major issues - economy, inflation, crime, border - they overwhelmingly went Trump. Those with facts went Harris."

I still think the outreach/comms/disinfo/education is the first thing that needs to be fixed.

Exactly why the far right wants to dismantle our education system.

 

[UNCatTech]

I do actually have a friend from UNC that is buying one year’s worth of inventory for his company to keep his prices the same for 2025.
If his prices increase due to the republicans voters idiotic wish for tariffs, then he will raise his prices in 2026.

He'll need to raise the price in 2025 to have the capital for 2026 inventory, will he not?

 

[UNCatTech]

Dems support the individual freedoms they like such as abortion. No so much on individual freedoms on:

Gun ownership
Vaccine mandates (“my body my choice”)
Excessive regulations
Free speech on social media
Freedom to purchase vehicle of choice (EV mandate)
Gas stoves and ovens
School choice

….you get the point.

Vaccines are not simply your body your choice.

If you get sick then you will probably share those germs and make others sick. You can see the upward trend of measles since the antivaxers have been pushing their disinformation. As well as an upward trend for polio. This isn't equal to a pregnant woman. You know this, you know being around a pregnant woman isn't going to lead to an outbreak.

Everyone has school choice. The right just wants the government to pay for there religious schools. You can send your child to a school of your choice, you simply have to pay for it.

Putting out knowledge of possible issues caused by burning gas stoves is not banning gas stoves.

 

[UNCatTech]

So vaccines are now about personal freedom?

My gosh, our situation is worse than I thought.

How would a trump cultists respond? They would say that the person needs to suffer for their choices. So when a person shows up at the doctor with measles, if they refused the vaccine they should be sent home without treatment.

Sometimes I want to respond in kind, then I realize how inhuman that is.

 

[uncjhodges]

How would a trump cultists respond? They would say that the person needs to suffer for their choices. So when a person shows up at the doctor with measles, if they refused the vaccine they should be sent home without treatment.

Sometimes I want to respond in kind, then I realize how inhuman that is.

I guess the concept of herd immunity and public health just doesn’t matter to MAGA

 

[Ramrouser]

Vaccines are not simply your body your choice.

If you get sick then you will probably share those germs and make others sick. You can see the upward trend of measles since the antivaxers have been pushing their disinformation. As well as an upward trend for polio. This isn't equal to a pregnant woman. You know this, you know being around a pregnant woman isn't going to lead to an outbreak.

Everyone has school choice. The right just wants the government to pay for there religious schools. You can send your child to a school of your choice, you simply have to pay for it.

Putting out knowledge of possible issues caused by burning gas stoves is not banning gas stoves.

I should have been clear: COVID vaccine mandates not ordinary vaccines. Specifically, those in the military who lost their jobs for refusing the COVID vaccines.

 

[LeoBloom]

I know no one can answer this question, but where does it stop? I mean, where does personal freedom end?

For decades, vaccines were a given. Who was questioning vaccines? Almost no one. Now, some people falsely claim vaccines lead to autism or other maladies and suddenly getting vaccines is about personal freedom.

What's the next arena for personal freedom? We have had guns, obviously. We have "school choice." We have "religious freedom" (which apparently means I should be able to inflict my religion on you in any setting I choose). We have, I guess, freedom from vaccines. What is next? Freedom for smokers? They should be able to fire up any where they want?

 

[rodoheel]

I should have been clear: COVID vaccine mandates not ordinary vaccines. Specifically, those in the military who lost their jobs for refusing the COVID vaccines.

They probably would have lost their jobs (or never gotten them) for refusing any other mandated vaccines, too. Blame the cynics and grifters who politicized the COVID vaccine such that a lot of people were tricked into opposing it on ideological grounds.