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I believe he said he is an MDAre you an MD or nurse or PA?
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I believe he said he is an MDAre you an MD or nurse or PA?
He didn’t write that you were banned from The Tar Pit.I post what I believe and newsflash, Donald Trump just won....by the popular vote no less. Enough people have seen through the lies. Don't be like the Japanese soldier lost in the jungle who for 29 years, continued to fight as if WWII wasn't over.
And I was never banned from the TarPit. I was banned multiple times from the ZZLP but the fact that Inside Carolina unloaded that board kinda speaks for itself.
Bernie would have lost in Walter Mondale numbers.![]()
Bernie Would Have Won
The Democratic smothering of the Bernie coalition reaped its reward today, writes Krystal Ball.open.substack.com
You are literally posting on a thread that is for us to "start thinking about what the fuck just happened" and not "pretending that 75 million people are all just raging foaming at the mouth lunatics." This is from the second part of my initial two-part post starting the thread:Yeah, there is a form of argument that takes one example and extrapolates from that one example that an entire premise is wrong. If you're super clued in, good for you, but that doesn't prove shit about this place. This board is in blue la la land and has been for years. If people just need a place to bitch and complain and make themselves feel better, well this is the place. But somebody needs to start thinking about what the fuck just happened and stop pretending that 75 million people are all just raging foaming at the mouth lunatics.
Breaking news: according to progressives, a more progressive candidate would have apparently won every single election a Democrat ever lost.![]()
Bernie Would Have Won
The Democratic smothering of the Bernie coalition reaped its reward today, writes Krystal Ball.open.substack.com
Agreed here, but a caveat, messaging and finger-pointing needs to be improved even IF the economy does tank quickly enough. Repubs will lie regarding economy and/or blame dems. (they'll also lie about crime, or dem stone-walling regarding immigration reform, healthcare reform, etc).Keep in mind that we are only talking about 3% of the voting population; it is not everyone.
Also, just because Trump ran on certain themes does not mean that is what moved that 3% to vote. I tend to think that the 3% -- especially the latino voters -- were almost exclusively inflation voters. Inflation hurt working class people the most. Americans typically vote their pocketbooks above all other issues. I think it was as simple as blaming Biden for inflation and remembering that inflation was low under Trump.
The border, crime, Ukraine, transgenderism -- all of those issues are effective with the base that was already going to vote for Trump. But when it comes right down to what motivated those 3% to vote for Trump rather than Harris, I think it is simply the economy, stupid.
Which means, if the economy goes gang busters the next four years, Republicans will stay in power. And if the economy goes in the toilet, Democrats will get in power.
I think it is as simple as that.
God bless Captain Vere!God bless America and God Bless Donald Trump…
Won’t get into everything. Will just touch upon a few things.I would like for you to tell me which of any of the things I listed spread by the liberal media as truth was actually true.
They'll figure a way, and if Rogan and Elon and everyone else repeat the lie enough sheeple will believe it. Of course the "anybody but the incumbent" factor will help regardless of the lies... so the only hope is that people truly do just vote with their pocket-book. But in that case we're kinda assholes for hoping poor and middle-class feel pain.I wonder who the right is going to blame when the price of everything we buy goes up 20% sending us straight into a depression. When they control congress and the White House how will it be the democrats fault?
What was the evidence attached to the claim that Sanders would have won this year? The idea that Joe Rogan endorsed him before so he would have enforced him this time and that would have been the difference?Never any evidence attached to these claims. If you think Mondale is Sanders you’re delusional. It’s 2024.
Bernie is the backup QB who would lead his team to the state championship/national championship/Super Bowl win if only the coach would put him in.Bernie would have lost in Walter Mondale numbers.
You don’t understand the visceral hatred of the word “socialist.”Never any evidence attached to these claims. If you think Mondale is Sanders you’re delusional. It’s 2024.
Is Bernie a Democrat in the US Senate?He registered as a Democrat to run in the primary. Republicans just elected a man, for the second time, who wasn’t a Republican until fairly recently.
Reagan was famously a Democrat before his corporate turn.
Bernie’s policies represent the core of the Democratic Party’s ethos more than any Democratic candidate since Harry Truman.
Bernie can register as a Democrat to run for President the same way I registered as a Republican to vote in the Republican primary in Ohio in 2016. Bernie is not and never has been a dues-paying member of the Democratic Party. They are never and were never going to nominate him.He registered as a Democrat to run in the primary. Republicans just elected a man, for the second time, who wasn’t a Republican until fairly recently.
Reagan was famously a Democrat before his corporate turn.
Bernie’s policies represent the core of the Democratic Party’s ethos more than any Democratic candidate since Harry Truman.
I dont hate Donald Trump for any of those reasons. I hated Donald Trump the minute he put himself into politics. He is an absolutely detestable human with no redeeming qualities so far as I can tell. I dont base that determination on any reporting or any filters. I base it on what I see and hear from the man himself. I see him insult and mock the disabled. I see him cheat on every version of a family he's ever had. I see him denigrate group after group and fan flames of anger and hatred. I see him flaunt the rule of law and openly state that he's above it completely. None of that is spin or propaganda. Thats all Trump himself.You, and so many others, have been manipulated into believing so many things that are simply not true by a party, aided and abetted by the liberal media, who desperately wanted to stay in power. After 4 more years of another Trump presidency have passed and none of the dire consequences the left has warned you about actually happen, you need to ask yourself why you were so easily manipulated and after doing so, maybe get a little pissed off about it.
Donald Trump colluded with Russia, Jussie Smollett was attacked by two Trump supporters, Trump called White Supremacists good people, Hunter's laptop was Russian disinformation, Border Patrol was whipping migrants, the border is secure while millions of illegals walk across it and also while many more were being flown into cities all across this nation, Joe Biden is running circles around everybody behind the scenes....all lies. Were you convinced to believe any of it?
You want to know who is responsible for creating the vast majority of the division created over the last 8 years? The Democratic Party and the liberal media. The Democrats could have simply acknowledged that Trump beat Hillary, moved on and tried to find common ground. But no, they declared war on Trump and tried to win by any means necessary all the while trying to convince their supporters to hate Trump enough to play along. And in far too many cases it worked.
The nation has moved on from that BS. And if there are any people who still believe all the propaganda, spread across all the years, in an effort to convince you to hate Donald Trump....you are now in the minority. This election proves it.
You, and so many others, have been manipulated into believing so many things that are simply not true by a party, aided and abetted by the liberal media, who desperately wanted to stay in power. After 4 more years of another Trump presidency have passed and none of the dire consequences the left has warned you about actually happen, you need to ask yourself why you were so easily manipulated and after doing so, maybe get a little pissed off about it.
Donald Trump colluded with Russia, Jussie Smollett was attacked by two Trump supporters, Trump called White Supremacists good people, Hunter's laptop was Russian disinformation, Border Patrol was whipping migrants, the border is secure while millions of illegals walk across it and also while many more were being flown into cities all across this nation, Joe Biden is running circles around everybody behind the scenes....all lies. Were you convinced to believe any of it?
You want to know who is responsible for creating the vast majority of the division created over the last 8 years? The Democratic Party and the liberal media. The Democrats could have simply acknowledged that Trump beat Hillary, moved on and tried to find common ground. But no, they declared war on Trump and tried to win by any means necessary all the while trying to convince their supporters to hate Trump enough to play along. And in far too many cases it worked.
The nation has moved on from that BS. And if there are any people who still believe all the propaganda, spread across all the years, in an effort to convince you to hate Donald Trump....you are now in the minority. This election proves it.
I didn't say that Bernie would have lost Mondale style. Don't attribute other peoples' posts to me. I said anybody who thinks they know what would have happened is a fool. I read the article you linked. It's all argument and grievance and conjecture, not anything approaching evidence. Because no one can have evidence either way. It's why counterfactuals are pointless and ultimately lazy arguments - they're impossible to realistically test and disprove.Your characterization of people on the left sharpening knives behind their backs is juvenile. Everyone left of center wanted to win this election. Everyone is mad that we didn’t. Bernie Sanders has a right to blame whoever the hell he wants. He’s taken enough false blame for the outcome of 2016. There is blame being cast at everyone in the party right now.
If you’ve read any of my other posts today, my argument about why I think Bernie would’ve won is implicit. I’ve attached multiple articles that have laid out the case in more detail.
The point about Sanders losing Mondale style sounds like something Chris Matthew spewed out in 2015 and every MSNBC viewer ran with it.
What you’re saying is equivalent to Republicans not wanting Democrats to talk about gun control after a school shooting.