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GOP & Policies toward/treatment of Transgender & other LGBTQ Americans

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Zoo_View said:
You should follow around a group of female high-level high school and/or college athletes.

The good females play pick-up with males ALL THE TIME! Anson Dorrance encouraged his teams at UNC to play pick-up and competitive off-season leagues with men.

UNC Women’s Soccer, Hoops, Volleyball, Lacrosse, etc. play tough male/female pick-up games year round.

It’s like NYC hoops….the best players are always looking for good games.

The idea that high school and college age women can’t play safely with comparably aged males is ludicrous.

Why I’m posting on this thread and giving a transphobic/homophobic prick a woody, I don’t know.
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Of course. It's great for the female teams to play the male teams in just-for-fun, exhibition or pickup games. Competing against superior competition is a good way to measure your ability and improve. Ask any pro team how important it is to have the best available bench players for the starters to practice against.

I'll be honest, the fact that there is so much pushback on what is a widely known, biological reality is just baffling at this point.

It's not a coincidence that
  • AB Hernandez finished in first or tied for first in every event she competed. It's not a coincidence that
  • The 1145th ranked male tennis player, as a last minute substitution, beat The 57th range female tennis player.
  • It's not a coincidence that an under 15 boys team beat the US women's team.
  • It's not a coincidence that Lia Thomas was irrelevant in men's swimming and started winning against women.
  • It's not a coincidence that Imane Khelif easily won the women's gold in boxing
And, it's not a coincidence that society is in nearly complete agreement that we NEED to have female sports (Title IX) and not co-ed as the best way to get females involved in sports.

Again, this isn't me pulling shit out of my ass. This is a known biological reality. Males have 40-60% more muscle mass and it gives them a clear advantage, which is why there isn't a single complaint or concern about trans MEN competing in male sports.

The only legit argument is "Well, there are so few trans women...who cares? You're making a big deal out of nothing!" My response is "It's nothing to you because you aren't the female losing your spot in the starting lineup. You aren't the female not making the team. You aren't the female missing out on the post season or coming in second when you should have won, or third when you would have come in 2nd. You aren't the female having your school records broken by a male."

Why are we prioritizing the feelings/experience of one over the feelings/experience of the many who are negatively impacted?
 
ZenMode said:
I'm not actually supporting that and I don't think most people would because it would be incredibly detrimental to female participation in sports.

There is risk in female sports and significantly higher risk the more you add males into female sports.

I don't want to take opportunities away from anyone. I want males to play with other males because males have a significant advantage over females.

That's why a group of old guys can beat the women's national team in soccer....easily and the 1150th rank mail tennis player can beat the 57th ranked female tennis player.
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You refuse to listen.

Your ASSUMPTION that ALL MALES have a SIGNIFICANT ADVANTAGE over ALL FEMALES, is INCORRECT. And it's the basis of your premise. It's the lie that the trumplican cult is selling and you have eagerly purchased.
 
tarheelbillie said:
Zen’ you need go to youtube and watch “Battle of the Sexes, exhibition tennis match between Billie Jean King and Bobby Riggs that took place in 1973”. Billie Jean beat Bobby Riggs in straight sets, 6–4, 6–3, 6–3. Billie Jean could have given any male a good match. BTW… to my knowledge the USPS doesn’t have tennis team. ;-)
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It's a waste of time, I've provided multiple examples to why his position is wrong.
 
ZenMode said:
Of course. It's great for the female teams to play the male teams in just-for-fun, exhibition or pickup games. Competing against superior competition is a good way to measure your ability and improve. Ask any pro team how important it is to have the best available bench players for the starters to practice against.

I'll be honest, the fact that there is so much pushback on what is a widely known, biological reality is just baffling at this point.

It's not a coincidence that
  • AB Hernandez finished in first or tied for first in every event she competed. It's not a coincidence that
  • The 1145th ranked male tennis player, as a last minute substitution, beat The 57th range female tennis player.
  • It's not a coincidence that an under 15 boys team beat the US women's team.
  • It's not a coincidence that Lia Thomas was irrelevant in men's swimming and started winning against women.
  • It's not a coincidence that Imane Khelif easily won the women's gold in boxing
And, it's not a coincidence that society is in nearly complete agreement that we NEED to have female sports (Title IX) and not co-ed as the best way to get females involved in sports.

Again, this isn't me pulling shit out of my ass. This is a known biological reality. Males have 40-60% more muscle mass and it gives them a clear advantage, which is why there isn't a single complaint or concern about trans MEN competing in male sports.

The only legit argument is "Well, there are so few trans women...who cares? You're making a big deal out of nothing!" My response is "It's nothing to you because you aren't the female losing your spot in the starting lineup. You aren't the female not making the team. You aren't the female missing out on the post season or coming in second when you should have won, or third when you would have come in 2nd. You aren't the female having your school records broken by a male."

Why are we prioritizing the feelings/experience of one over the feelings/experience of the many who are negatively impacted?
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We are not, you don't seem to understand that the many you are referring to are mostly maga cult members and not the athletes.

Go read about some of the sports teams that are openly embracing their trans teammates.

Then look at who's actually driving the complaints. It's the bigoted cult members.
 
UNCatTech said:
We are not, you don't seem to understand that the many you are referring to are mostly maga cult members and not the athletes.

Go read about some of the sports teams that are openly embracing their trans teammates.

Then look at who's actually driving the complaints. It's the bigoted cult members.
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In MAGA World only MAGAs count and have value. Those sports teams that are embracing their trans teammates have no value and are worthless in their eyes.
 
Mulberry Heel said:
In MAGA World only MAGAs count and have value. Those sports teams that are embracing their trans teammates have no value and are worthless in their eyes.
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They're being forced to do it by the liberal elite. They have the power to do anything.

Well, they somehow can't get enough people to vote for for them so they can win elections. Must be the same design flaw the super villain master of evil Biden zombie clone had that didn't quite pan out. Surely it's not mass MAGAt misconceptions.
 
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Tony Winner Cole Escola. I think they look great but sort of wonder how they decided whether to be nominated as an actor or actress (there is not a separate LGBTQ+ category). In acting, do we really need gender-based competitions for awards?

I don’t actually care enough to have read up on the topic, just something that occurs from time to time when the awards shows get coverage. I tend to be interested tin the awards shows almost entirely from the (very shallow, I admit) fashion blog perspective.
 
MOUNTAINH33L said:
The only embarrassing thing I see is your homophobia and transphobia. Stay mad, you bigoted cunt.

Get Out Theatre GIF by Tony Awards
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I have absolutely no issue with homosexual or transsexuals. I have an issue with those who ignore science in favor of feelings and identity politics.
 
tarheelbillie said:
Zen’ you need go to youtube and watch “Battle of the Sexes, exhibition tennis match between Billie Jean King and Bobby Riggs that took place in 1973”. Billie Jean beat Bobby Riggs in straight sets, 6–4, 6–3, 6–3. Billie Jean could have given any male a good match. BTW… to my knowledge the USPS doesn’t have tennis team. ;-)
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In fairness, Bobby Riggs was 55 years old, BJK was 29. We'd frown on that if they were dating, let alone athletically competing.

I think the "women are just as capable as men" argument is a dead end, because it's wrong. Not all of the time for every sport, but for most of the popular ones.

From what I have been able to glean from a public debate I don't follow much, it seems that more and more leagues are handing out two medals in the case that a trans person wins. That solves the problem in its entirety. What remains is the bigotry.
 
superrific said:
In fairness, Bobby Riggs was 55 years old, BJK was 29. We'd frown on that if they were dating, let alone athletically competing.

I think the "women are just as capable as men" argument is a dead end, because it's wrong. Not all of the time for every sport, but for most of the popular ones.

From what I have been able to glean from a public debate I don't follow much, it seems that more and more leagues are handing out two medals in the case that a trans person wins. That solves the problem in its entirety. What remains is the bigotry.
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The multiple medal thing only works in individual sports. Doesn’t solve the team sports issue.
 
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