OFFICIAL ELECTION RESULTS - POTUS | TRUMP ELECTED 47th President

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Yep. With the GOP securing a solid Senate majority and likely keeping the House, a national abortion ban is definitely on the table, as are attacks on contraception, IVF, and other items. But when you vote for Trump and a Republican Congress this is what was going to happen, so it is apparently what most voters (including white women) wanted.
 
Charlotte1204 said:
I was telling my husband, I don’t remember ever seeing a poll where she wasn’t leading in Wisconsin. Sure, margin of error and all of that, but it seemed to be the one consistent state.

I’m so glad I took today off. I’m not even sure what to do with myself. I’m one of those “November is for Thanksgiving“ people, but I think I might just go buy some Christmas decorations to cheer/distract myself. My 14-year-old made me chuckle when he said he can’t even scroll Instagram in peace this morning due to all the MAGA nonsense.
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I’m a staunch November is for Thanksgiving guy. You do what you have to do. No judgement.
 
1moretimeagain said:
Montana passes constitutional amendment protecting abortion rights, while Trump wins the state by 20 percentage points. So bizarre to me.
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"We know the right wing zealots are going to take this away, so we can protect abortion (which we really want) AND have someone who will make the people we hate suffer"
 
As I look back on the Biden nomination in 2020, he was the right person for the moment … but in the short term. We were looking for someone with a great deal of experience in the federal government to restore stability. The problem was that he was too old. It was hard to envision him going into a second term. And with his poor communication skills and lack of charisma, which were exacerbated by his advanced age, she struggled to defend his job performance or the state of the country, which by most objective measures were quite good.

He was able to fix things and to help send things into an upward trajectory, but he was unable to get many people to see that or to inspire confidence.

Unfortunately, he ended up being a band-aid used to attempt to cover up a much deeper problem.
 
Inflation, hurricanes, and vetting on the Dem. side took a toll. Racism, xenophobia, misogyny - the chimps won. Bonobos lost.

Gas is already down to $2.39 here. Oil futures are already around $70/ba as inventory surged. It's amazing how Trump did that without being President. I'm sure he'll take credit.

I hope Trump is kidding about tariffs (but I doubt it) and can use it as negotiating leverage. But keep in mind the Adults in the Room in Trump 1.0 acknowledged that Trump had a very poor grasp of foreign policy and the US Constitution (and didn't care)



I would agree with the notion that Biden pulled an RGB and didn't step out as he promised (single term POTUS)...to allow primaries.
 
HeelYeah2012 said:
This is working exactly as intended from those who dislike Roe. States deciding it on their own.
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Except if you live in a state where they aren't enshrined. Do you expect people to just up and move?

Like none of this had to be done at all. If you don't want an abortion, just don't get one. Why take that away from anyone.
 
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The Wall Street Journal has an incredible story today. The National Archives museum, under Biden-appointed U.S. Archivist Colleen Shogan, has been working to reshape its narrative of American history in order to make white conservatives more comfortable. The Journal describes a pattern of efforts to shape its newest upcoming exhibits to better fit right-wing narratives of U.S. history. The museum has removed references to Martin Luther King Jr., Japanese internment, Native Americans, union organizers, and birth control, because presenting American history honestly would make Republicans upset.
 
HeelYeah2012 said:
This is working exactly as intended from those who dislike Roe. States deciding it on their own.
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Are you under the impression that state constitutions supersede federal laws? Or that there is no will among elected Republicans (now with extra MAGA) in Congress to pass a national ban? Or that Trump definitely won’t sign it?
 
lightbluenc said:
Except if you live in a state where they aren't enshrined. Do you expect people to just up and move?

Like none of this had to be done at all. If you don't want an abortion, just don't get one. Why take that away from anyone.
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I agree with you actually, as a pro choice Republican. I think it’s way too messy being left to the states. But I’m just pointing out that leaving it to the states isn’t the same as opposing all abortions. I don’t really think Donald Trump gives a damn about abortions and is by no means some super pro-life politician.
 
Willy said:
I suspect the story will be that low propensity voters came out and voted for Trump, and it was always about the economy (stupid). And not the greater economy - low propensity voters don’t care about the stock market or the federal unemployment rate or GDP. They care about what’s in their bank account at the end of the month.
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Something Trump won’t change.
Faucette said:
100% why Trump won. Walk in a grocery store, buy a car, pay a utility and tell me it doesn't hurt. Whether its governments fault or not prices are higher and people vote with heir pocket books
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And the odds are good Trump will make it worse.
 
BubbaOtis said:
I think the " tax paid surgery for trans inmates" ad was a haymaker late in the game. Harris never walked back the sound bite. It was aimed at Black men but resounded with a lot of different demographic groups.
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The lincoln project had the response ad (it was all on trump's admin) and the dems never let it run. Failure. That ad, as gross and wrong as it was, was massively hurtful
 
BubbaOtis said:
I think the " tax paid surgery for trans inmates" ad was a haymaker late in the game. Harris never walked back the sound bite. It was aimed at Black men but resounded with a lot of different demographic groups.
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This definitely resonated with black men. Dems have really boxed themselves in on weird issues like this. Not once to my knowledge did Harris come out and say “that was misconstrued, hell no we won’t be wasting your tax dollars performing gender surgeries on trans prisoners”
 
ZenMode said:
It's probably already been mentioned, and I know ballots are still being counted, but Kamala is about 17 million votes behind Biden's final total from 2020, while Trump's total is nearly unchanged.
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So if this holds true, Trump didn't add any votes, but didn't lose any... and this whole "get out the vote-ground game" of Kamala's simply didn't produce. Too many people on that side of the aisle stayed home or voted 3rd party
 
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