OFFICIAL ELECTION RESULTS - POTUS | TRUMP ELECTED 47th President

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Bernie Sanders blasts Harris and Dems for not fighting for the working class and abandoning them once again. He is such a clueless insufferable schmuck.

Biden and Harris had major messaging issues and a failed campaign strategy.

What Bernie means is they didn't try his fantasy land desire for destructive far left socialism. They would have lost by more than 40 Million votes with that utopian make believe dream BS.

He's as deranged as MTG.
 
I think most of Bernies ideas are winning ideas when they are talked about without a party tied to them, you just have to message them properly.

Missouri, a very red state voted to raise the minimum wage gradually from $13.75 to $15 an hour and require paid sick leave. Those are Bernies ideas.

Tell people you are going to lower their cost of living, and raise their income, don't tell them how you pay for it. (You raise taxes on billionaires but you don't have to say this out loud, just say you'll have more money with these).
 
There’s a piece in NYT this morning that addresses this (and many other factors). Basically, Trump’s team looked at the costs and being low on funds initially, decided that $100 or more per voter interaction wasn’t workable for them. It does seem that Trump was able to do more with social media to reach voters. Will Dems (or Republicans post-Trump) be able to adapt to the new environment?
Also had Elon spending without care
 
Well I'm saying our projected weakness emboldened putin, as it did under obama. Obviously that is just my opinion and not expecting you to agree. Along those lines, one of my biggest fears in a harris win was china invading taiwan during her term. Again, not expecting you to agree but you at least know where I'm coming from.

Agree with you on warmongering
A significant part of "projected weakness" is that foreign bad actors (Putin, Xi, Kim, etc) know that if a President of the Democratic party commits American troops, then Republicans and right-wing media will rally half of the country against it, simply because the President is a Democrat. Putin doesn't even need his sophisticated intelligence services to know that. THAT is what emboldens foreign adversaries.
 
Unhinged post.
You are a self proclaimed Communist in America. You are in the 1% most far left extreme. So yeah, unhinged to you.

Put another way, a candidate with your views would be defeated in America 98% to 2%. And 0% is within the margin of error.

Unhinged.
 
When did he say that? Neither russia or china are in a good place economically. Putting pressure on their economies is the best deterrent. Trump would be under a lot of pressure to act if china invaded so i'm confident he wants to avoid that if at all possible.
Former President Donald Trump on Saturday said he would encourage Russia to do “whatever the hell they want” to any NATO member country that doesn’t meet spending guidelines on defense in a stunning admission he would not abide by the collective-defense clause at the heart of the alliance if reelected.

“NATO was busted until I came along,” Trump said at a rally in Conway, South Carolina. “I said, ‘Everybody’s gonna pay.’ They said, ‘Well, if we don’t pay, are you still going to protect us?’ I said, ‘Absolutely not.’ They couldn’t believe the answer.”

Trump said “one of the presidents of a big country” at one point asked him whether the US would still defend the country if they were invaded by Russia even if they “don’t pay.”

“No, I would not protect you,” Trump recalled telling that president. “In fact, I would encourage them to do whatever the hell they want. You got to pay. You got to pay your bills.”

 
You are a self proclaimed Communist in America. You are in the 1% most far left extreme. So yeah, unhinged to you.

Put another way, a candidate with your views would be defeated in America 98% to 2%. And 0% is within the margin of error.

Unhinged.
I don't know about that. If Trump literally said these exact views he'd still get 50%.
 
I think that cuts both ways..
A great many Boomers doing estate planning are concerned about what will happen when the current generous estate tax exemption expires in 2025 and voted accordingly. One client mentioned that as his main reason for voting for Trump. They'd rather leave it to their heirs than to the Treasury.
What percentage of trump voters have estates that would be impacted?
 
I agree with you that Dems are better for the economy across all economic levels of Americans.

I think Dems have got to do a better job discussing economic issues. Dems tend to get a bit caught up in showing how the economy is better using facts and figures and economic data...and most voters essentially equate "the economy" with their personal budget. Dems have got to find an economic populist message that works with those who aren't white collar professionals in reasonably high paying jobs. It's going to take hard work because Dems have to thread a needle of being realistic with what can be accomplished while also setting a vision that is beyond the strict reality of where we currently reside.

I think motifs of economic mobility, ensuring an opportunity of a "good life" for all, fighting corporate greed, and similar ideas will be the foundation of that message. But it will not be easy to really determine and will take a lot of effrort.
Didn't Harris repeatedly promote her "Opportunity Economy" and promise to go after companies engaging in price gouging? trump countered with tariffs and tax cuts for the rich?
 
We all know Elon is going to be the R nominee in 2028, right? He will be next to carry the torch, and unless there are some landmark changes in the D party's strategy, he'll win by a larger margin that Trump just did.

Rupert Murdoch has won. His long-game plan actually worked. And here we are.
 
^^^^In related news^^^

CNN political commentator Scott Jennings said that President-elect Donald Trump's victory in the election over Vice President Kamala Harris was a signal that working-class Americans are fed up with the current administration.

"This is a mandate," Jennings said. "He's won the national popular vote for the first time for a Republican since 2004. This is a big deal. This isn't backing into the office."

The Fox News Decision Desk projected a Trump victory on Wednesday after he accomplished key wins in a handful of battleground states, including Pennsylvania and Wisconsin.

"This is a mandate to do what you said you were going to do: get the economy working again for regular working-class Americans, fix immigration, try to get crime under control, try to reduce the chaos in the world," Jennings continued.

"I'm interpreting the results tonight as the revenge of the working-class American, the anonymous American who has been crushed, insulted, condescended to," he said. "They're not garbage. They're not Nazis. They're just regular people who get up and go to work every day and are trying to make a better life for their kids. And they feel like they have been told to just shut up when they have complained about the things that are hurting them in their own lives."

"I also feel like this election as we sit here and pore over this tonight is something of an indictment of the political information complex," Jennings said, speaking about the media ecosystem, especially in the lead up to Election Day. "The story that was portrayed was not true."

"We were told Puerto Rico was going to change the election. Liz Cheney, Nikki Haley voters, women lying to their husbands," he said. "Night after night after night, people were told all these things and gimmicks were somehow going to push Harris over the line, and we were just ignoring the fundamentals: inflation, people feeling like they were barely able to tread water at best."
The last paragraph was the only thing he said of any substance. The rest was political posturing. He's very good at it.
 
The last paragraph was the only thing he said of any substance. The rest was political posturing. He's very good at it.
I think this needs to alarm a lot of us, that the news coverage a good portion of us consume is not being as straightforward as we need it to be. They harped on all those things Scott Jennings said, and it made us feel like the entire country thought the same thing. We need waaaay less sensational news and more direct reporting out of the major networks we get news from.
 
Well, not really but... I was talking about the SS letting them get that close with guns and actually turning a blind eye in PA.
Didn't you write "You guys tried to shoot him twice and failed. Maybe you should spend more time practicing marksmanship rather than trying to ban guns"?

Well I tried. I voted for haley in the primary. You guys tried to shoot him twice and failed. Maybe you should spend more time practicing marksmanship rather than trying to ban guns.

What do you mean by "you guys"? Democrats?
 
We all know Elon is going to be the R nominee in 2028, right? He will be next to carry the torch, and unless there are some landmark changes in the D party's strategy, he'll win by a larger margin that Trump just did.

Rupert Murdoch has won. His long-game plan actually worked. And here we are.
You do know he can't be president, right?
 
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