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United Healthcare CEO shot and killed

its not all necessarily sympathy.

its minding their own damn business because all too often when black folks call the police it ends up being a huge hassle and/or dangerous for them even if they've done nothing wrong.
Once again, I guess. But we're not talking about someone selling loose cigarettes or running an unlicensed lemonade stand. We're talking about someone that murdered someone.
 
Once again, I guess. But we're not talking about someone selling loose cigarettes or running an unlicensed lemonade stand. We're talking about someone that murdered someone.
this is not complicated, dude.

black folks are already very reticent to call the police and a lot of people do not see the victim as a sympathetic figure whatsoever.
 
The total net is yes's minus no's. It basically says a small majority of the people under 45 would report the murderer and a large majority of the people over 45 would report the murderer.

It's a little cut off but it looks like people under 45 and black people are almost equally reluctant to report the white murderer. I'm a little surprised. I wouldn't have thought a young white male would have been statistically significant between blacks and whites.
I’ve seen some surveys that suggest black Americans are less likely to report crime in general, ostensibly because they don’t think the police will actually do anything about it other than maybe hassle them.
 
I’ve seen some surveys that suggest black Americans are less likely to report crime in general, ostensibly because they don’t think the police will actually do anything about it other than maybe hassle them.
Apparently it's true that black Americans are less likely to report crime based on the United health CEO murderer survey and that seems like a reasonable idea about why. I'm just surprised.

And not to make it out like there's a large community of people that would let a murderer slide. The majority of both young people and black people would report this guy. I'm just surprised that there was such a large difference between whites and blacks on the intention to report.
 
its not all necessarily sympathy.

its minding their own damn business because all too often when black folks call the police it ends up being a huge hassle and/or dangerous for them even if they've done nothing wrong.
Part of my job involves attending neighborhood watch/community watch meetings, usually in heavily Black neighborhoods. The police send people to attend as well. Without fail, the (Black) people at those meetings beg and plead for more police activity in their neighborhoods. Granted, the demographic that attends these meetings skews older/retired and cares more about crime than your average person, but I don’t think it is a simple black/white issue.
 
Part of my job involves attending neighborhood watch/community watch meetings, usually in heavily Black neighborhoods. The police send people to attend as well. Without fail, the (Black) people at those meetings beg and plead for more police activity in their neighborhoods. Granted, the demographic that attends these meetings skews older/retired and cares more about crime than your average person, but I don’t think it is a simple black/white issue.
i mean, dude....old people who take the time to attend community meetings about policing want more policing?

in other news, water is wet.
 
Part of my job involves attending neighborhood watch/community watch meetings, usually in heavily Black neighborhoods. The police send people to attend as well. Without fail, the (Black) people at those meetings beg and plead for more police activity in their neighborhoods. Granted, the demographic that attends these meetings skews older/retired and cares more about crime than your average person, but I don’t think it is a simple black/white issue.
"I don’t think it is a simple black/white issue."

Is there such a thing as a "simple black/white issue?"
 
BREAKING NEWS AT 10: old people who take the time to attend community meetings about policing want more policing.

in other news, water is wet.
The flip is also true, though. No one has cared enough about over policing during the many years I have gone to these meetings to attend and ask for less policing, even though this would be a great time and place to do so.
 
The flip is also true, though. No one has cared enough about over policing during the many years I have gone to these meetings to attend and ask for less policing, even though this would be a great time and place to do so.
people who are doing crime or have family/friends doing crime or are worried about over policing aren't likely to publicly complain about policing and thereby ID themselves.

i think some of y'all are overthinking something that is very simple - black folks simply to not trust law enforcement nearly as much as white folks.
 
people who are doing crime or have family/friends doing crime or are worried about over policing aren't likely to publicly complain about policing and thereby ID themselves.

i think some of y'all are overthinking something that is very simple - black folks simply to not trust law enforcement nearly as much as white folks.
Is that really true? I could think of a couple other explanations for not wanting to call law enforcement than black people not trusting them. I suspect there are a number of different reasons for a number of different people as opposed to a blanket black people don't trust law enforcement. And that of course ignores the majority of black people that would have turned this murderer in according to this poll.
 
Is that really true? I could think of a couple other explanations for not wanting to call law enforcement than black people not trusting them. I suspect there are a number of different reasons for a number of different people as opposed to a blanket black people don't trust law enforcement. And that of course ignores the majority of black people that would have turned this murderer in according to this poll.
You could think and suspect, or you could listen and learn. It isn't like the relationship between African Americans and law enforcement is some undiscovered county- there are myriad studies about opinions and engagement with law enforcement from African Americans and other ethnic groups, which could help guide your understanding.
 
Once again, I guess. But we're not talking about someone selling loose cigarettes or running an unlicensed lemonade stand. We're talking about someone that murdered someone.
In addition to what others have already said about the relationship between black Americans and law enforcement, we're talking about someone who murdered a wealthy white CEO for a very specific reason that doesn’t apply broadly. I doubt many in the black community are concerned about being his next target.
 
In addition to what others have already said about the relationship between black Americans and law enforcement, we're talking about someone who murdered a wealthy white CEO for a very specific reason that doesn’t apply broadly. I doubt many in the black community are concerned about being his next target.
Sure, but most in the white community aren't either. There aren't that many healthcare executives. I can't think that's the reason for the difference in attitudes.
 
It's not  the reason but a piece of the puzzle, imo. That's why I started my post with "in addition to...".
I guess we don't know for sure but I'm just not seeing it. Seems like on a percentage basis there would be a roughly equal number of white Americans and black Americans that are not healthcare executives so any hesitancy to report a murder of those same healthcare executives for that reason should be roughly equal as well.
 
Is that really true? I could think of a couple other explanations for not wanting to call law enforcement than black people not trusting them. I suspect there are a number of different reasons for a number of different people as opposed to a blanket black people don't trust law enforcement. And that of course ignores the majority of black people that would have turned this murderer in according to this poll.
lmao.




 
Interesting to see this discussion just days after the final admission of lying by the Duke lacrosse accuser. The way we judge everything on the basis of race is so useless. Fortunately, the American justice system is blind to emotional blackmail and ideologically motivated reasoning
 
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