Congratulations to President Trump

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BlueSteel said:
Question: When will the Trump/Putin phone call that will end the Russia/Ukraine war be held? Also, when can I expect $1.75 gas and $3.99 egg cartons again? I'd just like to circle those dates on my calendar. Thanks!
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I read where someone predicted that Trump will broker a deal offering eastern Ukraine to Russia with an agreement on both sides to end the conflict.

Ukraine might go for it because they know they will no longer have help from the US. Russia might go for it because it allows him a way to stop the conflict and present it as a victory.

Also, Russia can just wait a time for Ukraine to lower its defensive posture and attack again.

The whole idea makes me throw up because the lack of support from the US would force Ukraine to give major concessions. Trump would present it as some sort genius move but it would essentially be him giving away much of Ukraine to Russia.
 
Just so that you guys don't think he's original, or intending real discussion, the 45and47 troll is just literally cutting and pasting shit-tweets from the super disgusting Patriots.win site and this nasty person on twitter:



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EhringhausSouth said:
Never understood this attitude. I don't gloat when my political candidates win, or my sports teams. Good game, and move on. I didn't vote for Trump, but he won, lets see if he can deliver.
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Well these are people who would chant USA at a little league world series game.
 
TruthTeller said:
Just so that you guys don't think he's original, or intending real discussion, the 45and47 troll is just literally cutting and pasting shit-tweets from the super disgusting Patriots.win site and this nasty person on twitter:



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Isnt plagiarism disallowed on here??
 
ChapelHillSooner said:
I read where someone predicted that Trump will broker a deal offering eastern Ukraine to Russia with an agreement on both sides to end the conflict.

Ukraine might go for it because they know they will no longer have help from the US. Russia might go for it because it allows him a way to stop the conflict and present it as a victory.

Also, Russia can just wait a time for Ukraine to lower its defensive posture and attack again.

The whole idea makes me throw up because the lack of support from the US would force Ukraine to give major concessions. Trump would present it as some sort genius move but it would essentially be him giving away much of Ukraine to Russia.
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I imagine the final deal would look something like:

Russia keeps most of its captured territory in Ukraine.
Russia promises no additional territorial demands.
US provides Ukraine tons of modern, defensive weapons.
US and EU provide security guarantees to Ukraine but no EU membership.

Not great but the reality is that there exists a Western Front stalemate in eastern Ukraine and Ukraine lacks the manpower for a serious offensive campaign necessary to drive the Russians back to their border.
 
superrific said:
I do not. I mean, what does a good job even look like? What he would consider good, the rest of us would consider a disaster.

When the best hope for the country is that the fascist who was just elected will be too incompetent to carry out his threats, it's really a sad situation.
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That he stumbles into being good as I would define it. I find it improbable but I made the comment as part of a larger conversation I was having with my son.
 
Ramrouser said:
I imagine the final deal would look something like:

Russia keeps most of its captured territory in Ukraine.
Russia promises no additional territorial demands.
US provides Ukraine tons of modern, defensive weapons.
US and EU provide security guarantees to Ukraine but no EU membership.

Not great but the reality is that there exists a Western Front stalemate in eastern Ukraine and Ukraine lacks the manpower for a serious offensive campaign necessary to drive the Russians back to their border.
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If you substitute NATO for US, perhaps.

But with Trump in office, that isn't going to be the final deal. Ukraine can't hang on without American support. Russia will demand, and Trump will agree, that Ukraine should give up basically all of the Donbas region.
 
ChileG said:
That he stumbles into being good as I would define it. I find it improbable but I made the comment as part of a larger conversation I was having with my son.
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I have no issues with what you say to your son. But yes, improbable is the right word, though I would consider it not strong enough. It's improbable in the same way that it's improbable for Wake Forest to win March Madness this year.
 
45and47 said:
Think about this

If Trump won in 2020, he would’ve had a Democrat House and Senate

More impeachments, no Senate confirmations, no bills passed, and possibly the end of the MAGA movement as an effective political force

But now?

He has the House, Senate, Supreme Court, a popular vote mandate, and an entire country that wants to clean up our elections, close our borders, deport illegals, and hold corrupt politicians accountable

Sometimes I think it had to happen this way
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Yes, I think it will definitely work out best this way; when Republicans fail to do anything to address the significant issues facing our country, they will have no scapegoat to blame.
 
I welcome all conservatives to join me here on the board. It’s been kind of lonely the last few months as one of only a very small handful of Trump supporters who posts here. Hope you guys will stick around.

It’s good for both sides if we all have meaningful dialogue with the other side and try to understand where they’re coming from.

No gloating from me about Trump’s win, but I do hope it will cause some of the liberals on this board to do some soul searching and understand some different perspectives.
 
superrific said:
I have no issues with what you say to your son. But yes, improbable is the right word, though I would consider it not strong enough. It's improbable in the same way that it's improbable for Wake Forest to win March Madness this year.
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I would agree.
 
HeelYeah2012 said:
I welcome all conservatives to join me here on the board. It’s been kind of lonely the last few months as one of only a very small handful of Trump supporters who posts here. Hope you guys will stick around.

It’s good for both sides if we all have meaningful dialogue with the other side and try to understand where they’re coming from.

No gloating from me about Trump’s win, but I do hope it will cause some of the liberals on this board to do some soul searching and understand some different perspectives.
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I welcome Republicans as well, but as Trump might say, they’re not sending their best.
 
HeelYeah2012 said:
I welcome all conservatives to join me here on the board. It’s been kind of lonely the last few months as one of only a very small handful of Trump supporters who posts here. Hope you guys will stick around.

It’s good for both sides if we all have meaningful dialogue with the other side and try to understand where they’re coming from.

No gloating from me about Trump’s win, but I do hope it will cause some of the liberals on this board to do some soul searching and understand some different perspectives.
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lol I think even you can admit that the guy who created the username "45and47" and is copying posts from the "DC Draino" Twitter account is not here for "meaningful dialogue."
 
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